1 00:00:17,630 --> 00:00:20,490 On my first day of law school, my professor says two things. 2 00:00:20,830 --> 00:00:24,490 First, from this day forward, when your mother says she loves you, get a second 3 00:00:24,490 --> 00:00:25,490 opinion. 4 00:00:26,150 --> 00:00:28,650 And? If you want justice, go to a whorehouse. 5 00:00:28,850 --> 00:00:30,070 If you want to get fucked, go to court. 6 00:00:31,610 --> 00:00:36,130 Naomi! Let's say you have a client who you know is guilty. No, don't even start 7 00:00:36,130 --> 00:00:39,530 with that. Our justice system doesn't care about that, and neither do I. Every 8 00:00:39,530 --> 00:00:42,610 defendant, no matter who he is, regardless of what he's done, has the 9 00:00:42,610 --> 00:00:44,290 the best defense his attorney can provide. 10 00:00:44,530 --> 00:00:46,490 Period. So, where were you with the truth? 11 00:00:47,030 --> 00:00:48,030 Truth? 12 00:00:49,410 --> 00:00:50,410 How do you mean? 13 00:00:50,610 --> 00:00:51,610 Naomi! 14 00:00:52,170 --> 00:00:54,790 I'm not sure how many ways there are to mean it. 15 00:00:55,030 --> 00:00:57,570 You think there's only one? I can't do this. You're late. 16 00:00:57,890 --> 00:00:58,890 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 17 00:00:59,470 --> 00:01:03,030 Okay. Actually, you're right. There is only one. One that matters. Marty, hold 18 00:01:03,030 --> 00:01:03,769 still, please. 19 00:01:03,770 --> 00:01:07,630 My version of it. The one I create in the minds of those 12 men and women 20 00:01:07,630 --> 00:01:08,628 sitting on a jury. 21 00:01:08,630 --> 00:01:10,110 Now, if you want, you can call it something else. 22 00:01:10,670 --> 00:01:13,050 The illusion of truth. 23 00:01:13,510 --> 00:01:14,510 If you want, it's up to you. 24 00:01:14,790 --> 00:01:15,790 Okay. Yeah? Yeah. 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,640 Jack, is that it? You need some more stuff? 26 00:01:20,940 --> 00:01:21,980 Oh, yeah. Tomorrow afternoon? 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,960 Yeah. All right, I'll let my secretary set it up. 28 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:33,640 This is a cover story, right? Yeah. 29 00:03:47,790 --> 00:03:50,710 photo session while we have the boys here with His Excellency. 30 00:03:51,250 --> 00:03:52,570 I'll be back in a few minutes. 31 00:03:52,810 --> 00:03:54,870 Please bear with us. Enjoy your dessert. 32 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,500 Marty, what an unexpected surprise. Well, I'm here to help our friendly 33 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:28,160 prosecutor off the hook. Excuse me? 34 00:04:28,380 --> 00:04:29,380 What's it going to cost? 35 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,900 A lot less than the alternative. 36 00:04:33,700 --> 00:04:35,100 Tomorrow, my office, 930. 37 00:04:38,060 --> 00:04:39,059 Is this on? 38 00:04:39,060 --> 00:04:42,860 Ooh, yes, it is. Nice to see you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have come to the 39 00:04:42,860 --> 00:04:46,300 heart of the matter, the reason we've all gathered together here tonight. 40 00:04:46,820 --> 00:04:50,620 This is the fifth straight year that it's been my privilege to serve as your 41 00:04:50,620 --> 00:04:51,620 master of ceremonies. 42 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,380 Chicago Bar Association and Catholic Charities. I'm afraid you're going to 43 00:04:55,380 --> 00:04:56,380 to put that out. 44 00:04:57,060 --> 00:04:59,080 It's a bar, for Christ's sake. 45 00:05:02,860 --> 00:05:06,940 I thought you quit. 46 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,480 I cut down. 47 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:12,840 You look beautiful. 48 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:14,680 Did you cut your hair? 49 00:05:15,540 --> 00:05:16,760 Yeah, a few months ago. 50 00:05:19,380 --> 00:05:20,380 Do you want to dance? 51 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:23,500 There isn't any music. 52 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,360 Sure there is. 53 00:05:28,660 --> 00:05:29,020 I 54 00:05:29,020 --> 00:05:40,900 thought 55 00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:45,600 you liked it better like this. 56 00:05:46,180 --> 00:05:47,900 That way you don't have to look at the person. 57 00:05:52,220 --> 00:05:53,260 Look at me. 58 00:05:56,460 --> 00:06:00,740 Come on, let's go find a bar I can still smoke in. 59 00:06:01,940 --> 00:06:02,940 Thanks for the invite. 60 00:06:03,380 --> 00:06:05,560 But I don't like one -night stands all that much. 61 00:06:06,940 --> 00:06:08,280 We saw each other for months. 62 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,660 It was a one -night stand, Marty. 63 00:06:12,780 --> 00:06:14,460 It just lasted a bit, then. 64 00:06:25,590 --> 00:06:26,590 Well, 65 00:06:27,690 --> 00:06:33,030 I must say, I haven't seen this many lawyers and politicians gathered 66 00:06:33,030 --> 00:06:35,110 in one place since confession this morning. 67 00:06:47,170 --> 00:06:51,470 There is no way that people are going to tolerate a monetary award to a 68 00:06:51,470 --> 00:06:53,430 cockroach who deserves 20 to life. 69 00:06:54,030 --> 00:06:57,670 He may be your client, but Joey Pinero is a hard case felon. 70 00:06:58,410 --> 00:07:01,070 Dealing, racketeering, money laundering, attempted murder. 71 00:07:01,390 --> 00:07:04,730 Nancy, I didn't hear you say alleged. Did you hear him say alleged? 72 00:07:05,230 --> 00:07:07,410 Mr. Pinero has never been convicted of anything. 73 00:07:07,810 --> 00:07:10,930 Cops jumped in, left him bleeding in the snow. It's a miracle he survived. 74 00:07:11,570 --> 00:07:14,850 Having said that, I'm not opposed to a settlement. 75 00:07:16,810 --> 00:07:18,930 A million five and Pinero leaves the state. 76 00:07:25,770 --> 00:07:27,610 You can't limit a citizen's right to live wherever he wants to. 77 00:07:28,150 --> 00:07:31,610 Legally, that's unenforceable. Whether or not it's enforceable or just a 78 00:07:31,610 --> 00:07:34,450 gentleman's agreement, Mr. Panera will know what we want. 79 00:07:38,370 --> 00:07:39,790 Get the answer you're looking for? 80 00:07:40,050 --> 00:07:41,590 Sit around and chat. It's been a pleasure. 81 00:07:42,590 --> 00:07:44,810 You're worse than the fucking thugs you represent. 82 00:07:45,130 --> 00:07:46,250 That's enough, bud. It's over. 83 00:07:46,690 --> 00:07:47,950 Obviously, I've got to run this by him. 84 00:07:48,190 --> 00:07:51,410 You're on 40 % commission, Marty. I have nothing but confidence your 85 00:07:51,410 --> 00:07:52,630 recommendation will prevail. 86 00:07:53,690 --> 00:07:54,690 Thank you, John. 87 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:17,800 Nice tone. 88 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,040 So what'd they say? 89 00:10:27,500 --> 00:10:29,060 They're going to leave it off for a million and five. 90 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,080 I'm sure he'll see himself. 91 00:10:34,060 --> 00:10:35,060 What do you think? 92 00:10:37,220 --> 00:10:39,460 I think we should take it. 93 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:42,840 Unless you want to spend the next two years of your life tied up in a pellet 94 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:43,980 cord. No, fuck that. 95 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:45,780 Close it. Done. Gracias. 96 00:10:49,260 --> 00:10:50,260 Okay. 97 00:10:51,180 --> 00:10:52,320 Gracias. Salud. 98 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,240 Salud. 99 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:56,800 Hey. 100 00:10:57,680 --> 00:10:58,780 Mia. Richard. 101 00:11:01,100 --> 00:11:02,720 Oh, there's one more little thing. 102 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,480 They want you to leave the state. 103 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,080 They want you to disappear. 104 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:12,680 Disappear? 105 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:14,899 That's good. 106 00:11:14,900 --> 00:11:16,060 Same bullshit, right? 107 00:11:16,860 --> 00:11:23,840 What? I keep getting these offers from these guys, Marty. 108 00:11:24,700 --> 00:11:25,700 What offers? 109 00:11:26,380 --> 00:11:29,040 Well, a couple months ago, a cop walks in here. 110 00:11:29,740 --> 00:11:35,300 He says, uh, you testify against Alderman Martinez and we'll owe you, 111 00:11:36,420 --> 00:11:40,020 Say he did you a favor, say he's on your payroll, shit like that, right? 112 00:11:40,540 --> 00:11:44,080 So I tell him to go fuck himself. Why? Because Martinez is a good man. 113 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,160 He's the only one holding out while the others try to turn South River into high 114 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,160 -rent condos. 115 00:11:49,740 --> 00:11:51,660 Why didn't you tell me this before? Why? 116 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,900 Because this shit happens every day. 117 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,060 I didn't think it had anything to do with this. 118 00:11:57,650 --> 00:12:00,830 No, you don't. Hey, I've spent a lot of money in this place. He spent a lot 119 00:12:00,830 --> 00:12:02,310 more. I built a clinic here. 120 00:12:02,610 --> 00:12:05,070 These people depend on me. I don't give a shit. 121 00:12:05,470 --> 00:12:06,790 Send him checks from California. 122 00:12:12,350 --> 00:12:19,350 I respect your advice, Marty, but 123 00:12:19,350 --> 00:12:20,350 I can't take it. 124 00:12:20,850 --> 00:12:23,850 I'll take the money, but I ain't going anywhere. This is my home. I don't like 125 00:12:23,850 --> 00:12:24,850 it, Joey. 126 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,160 So what are they going to do? 127 00:12:28,740 --> 00:12:29,740 Kill me? 128 00:12:30,220 --> 00:12:31,220 Tried once. 129 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,260 How are they going to kill a man who never sleeps? 130 00:12:35,620 --> 00:12:36,620 Get the money. 131 00:12:36,740 --> 00:12:38,940 Too much. Hey. Not there. Not there. 132 00:12:39,820 --> 00:12:40,820 That sound you like? 133 00:12:41,380 --> 00:12:42,380 Fourth cut. 134 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:44,920 Very nice. Thank you. 135 00:13:03,689 --> 00:13:06,130 You guys got enough fucking cops here? 136 00:13:06,850 --> 00:13:09,710 No doubt. The police are going to have their hands full with this one. Captain 137 00:13:09,710 --> 00:13:12,210 Stenner, could you tell us anything right now? I don't know anything. I just 138 00:13:12,210 --> 00:13:13,210 here. 139 00:13:13,410 --> 00:13:16,490 Captain Stenner, could you tell us what's going on? Hi, Andy. I haven't 140 00:13:16,490 --> 00:13:18,790 anything yet. As soon as I go inside, I'll come out and tell you. 141 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,220 They should be home in bed, Abel. It's going around. 142 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,140 I'll consider that, Harvey. 143 00:13:49,380 --> 00:13:50,380 Christ. 144 00:13:50,860 --> 00:13:51,860 A mess, huh? 145 00:14:11,820 --> 00:14:12,820 Sam, you got all you need? 146 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,600 Can you roll them over? 147 00:14:29,940 --> 00:14:31,520 Four fingers, Sam. 148 00:14:32,740 --> 00:14:38,560 Symbol B, 32 .156 is carved into the chest. 149 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:46,610 Ronnie, temperature's still warm. 150 00:14:46,870 --> 00:14:47,870 Captain, 151 00:14:48,430 --> 00:14:49,430 we got a live one on the run. 152 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,740 If you see now, a passing train has separated the fleeing suspect. You want 153 00:15:15,740 --> 00:15:16,760 know what I hate? I'll tell you what I hate. 154 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,080 I hate when they go on and on about what big fucking whores the defense attorney 155 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,080 found. 156 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,000 We're the bad guys. 157 00:15:24,380 --> 00:15:25,219 You know why? 158 00:15:25,220 --> 00:15:27,700 Because we're always sitting next to some creep. We start to look creepy. 159 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,480 Plus, they assume they're guilty. 160 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,860 They assume they did it, like we know or something. 161 00:15:32,260 --> 00:15:33,260 You don't know. 162 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,720 You don't ask. You don't care. You do the goddamn job. 163 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,180 It's not like they're your friends, for Christ's sake. 164 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,940 Well, some of your friends, but... 165 00:15:42,940 --> 00:15:53,660 So, 166 00:15:53,660 --> 00:15:56,800 why'd you leave the state's attorney's office? 167 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:58,360 It's an in -job. 168 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:04,520 Yeah, you either run for office or you end up a judge. 169 00:16:05,300 --> 00:16:07,600 Or become an umpire when you can play ball. 170 00:16:09,930 --> 00:16:12,410 around St. Michael's and the Archbishop's Mansion. 171 00:16:38,220 --> 00:16:41,860 We will, of course, stay with this shocking story as it continues to unfold 172 00:16:41,860 --> 00:16:46,320 throughout the day. Now, what we do know right now is that at approximately 11 173 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,440 .08 this morning... So when did you know you had them? 174 00:16:53,260 --> 00:16:56,500 What? Sorry. Was there a moment during the Pinero trial when you said to 175 00:16:56,500 --> 00:16:57,980 yourself, I've got them? 176 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:02,280 The day I took the case. Excuse me. 177 00:17:04,970 --> 00:17:06,290 Chicago's most beloved figures. 178 00:17:06,869 --> 00:17:11,109 Archbishop Richard Brushman has left the city just now. Okay, understand we have 179 00:17:11,109 --> 00:17:14,770 Andy live. Let's go to Andy. Diane, we have just learned that Chicago police 180 00:17:14,770 --> 00:17:19,770 have arrested a 19 -year -old man tentatively identified as Aaron 181 00:17:19,770 --> 00:17:22,569 according to Captain Abel Stenner... We're going to have to reschedule it. 182 00:17:22,569 --> 00:17:26,550 my office on the campsite. ...runs underneath McCormick Place just minutes 183 00:17:26,550 --> 00:17:27,790 the murder of... ...Chicago. 184 00:17:28,430 --> 00:17:31,590 Through cold -blooded savagery, a beacon of hope has been taken from us. 185 00:17:32,370 --> 00:17:33,810 Hello, this is the Martin Vale. 186 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,240 You got the news on by any chance? 187 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,960 Yeah, we're watching it. All right, I want you to call Sullivan and Judge 188 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:38,960 Trotter's office. 189 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,380 Find out where they took him and call me right back. I'm at the alibi. 190 00:17:41,820 --> 00:17:43,180 A lot of guys are going to want this one. 191 00:17:43,420 --> 00:17:44,420 Okay. 192 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,540 The police have taken the first step acting with speed and determination with 193 00:17:48,540 --> 00:17:49,540 the arrest. 194 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,360 Are you taking a stamp of case? I'm sorry, I can't talk to you about 195 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,200 Thank you very much. 196 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:21,880 State's attorney left, huh? 197 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,380 Yeah, he answered, no less. 198 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:24,199 He did? 199 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,200 Come and go on. 200 00:18:25,420 --> 00:18:26,420 Lock up! 201 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,440 No, I bet it's for your brother. 202 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:29,840 Yeah, sure. 203 00:18:32,220 --> 00:18:33,380 I'd like to see him alone, if I could. 204 00:18:34,460 --> 00:18:36,540 All right, but I'm going to have to lock you in. Understood. 205 00:19:05,740 --> 00:19:06,740 Know who I am? 206 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:09,640 No, 207 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,740 sir, no, I don't. 208 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:13,820 My name is Martin Vale. 209 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,300 I'm what you call a big shot attorney. 210 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,240 I don't. 211 00:19:20,140 --> 00:19:21,440 I don't have no money. 212 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:22,640 No, I didn't think you did. 213 00:19:22,900 --> 00:19:27,600 But I'm willing to take your case pro bono, which means you get all of my 214 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,360 expertise and hard work for free. 215 00:19:31,010 --> 00:19:35,650 Or, if you want to, you could get the $40 ,000 a year court -appointed public 216 00:19:35,650 --> 00:19:38,550 defender who will almost certainly escort you personally to death for your 217 00:19:38,550 --> 00:19:39,550 choice. 218 00:19:40,210 --> 00:19:41,210 No, no. 219 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:42,430 No, sir. 220 00:19:43,570 --> 00:19:46,910 I'd surely be grateful for anything you could do for me. You're welcome. 221 00:19:48,370 --> 00:19:50,850 Now, your full name is? 222 00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:57,270 Aaron Luke Stampler. 223 00:19:59,710 --> 00:20:00,710 Stampler. 224 00:20:01,710 --> 00:20:02,710 From Kentucky, huh? 225 00:20:03,250 --> 00:20:05,390 Yes, sir. I'm from Crixod. 226 00:20:06,690 --> 00:20:08,030 Does it say that there? 227 00:20:11,350 --> 00:20:12,590 How long have you been here in Chicago? 228 00:20:14,770 --> 00:20:18,730 Two years next month, I think. 229 00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:20,750 You ever been arrested? 230 00:20:21,490 --> 00:20:22,510 No. No, sir. 231 00:20:26,810 --> 00:20:27,810 So how do you know the occupation? 232 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,880 I was begging on the street up under Wacker Drive. 233 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:41,900 Bishop Rushman came by in his Cadillac. 234 00:20:43,460 --> 00:20:46,140 He saw me and he stopped. 235 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,900 He took me into the Savior House. 236 00:20:50,860 --> 00:20:52,680 I work as an altar boy. 237 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,360 I sing in his choir. 238 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,000 How long were you there at the Savior House? 239 00:20:58,780 --> 00:21:00,340 A year, a year and a half. 240 00:21:02,010 --> 00:21:08,990 Supposed to leave when you're 18, but Bishop Rushman let me stay on way 241 00:21:08,990 --> 00:21:10,130 past my 19th birthday. 242 00:21:11,810 --> 00:21:12,850 That was nice of him. 243 00:21:16,970 --> 00:21:18,030 Yes, yes it was. 244 00:21:21,610 --> 00:21:24,010 Aaron, did you have any reason to dislike the Archbishop? 245 00:21:25,750 --> 00:21:26,750 Dislike? No. 246 00:21:27,290 --> 00:21:28,290 No, sir. 247 00:21:28,410 --> 00:21:29,410 He was... 248 00:21:30,510 --> 00:21:31,730 He was like a father to me. 249 00:21:32,130 --> 00:21:37,630 Yeah, but you... Were you 250 00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:40,110 in the room when he was murdered? 251 00:21:44,370 --> 00:21:45,510 How can you explain that? 252 00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:49,930 There was someone else in that room, Mr. Bale. 253 00:21:52,090 --> 00:21:54,230 It was a third person? 254 00:21:54,550 --> 00:21:56,770 Yes, sir. Did you tell the police this? Yes. 255 00:21:57,050 --> 00:21:58,050 Yes, I did. 256 00:21:58,230 --> 00:21:59,670 But they didn't believe me. 257 00:21:59,980 --> 00:22:01,140 All right, well, you tell me now. 258 00:22:03,020 --> 00:22:07,760 I was returning a book to Bishop Rushman's library. 259 00:22:08,540 --> 00:22:13,460 I heard a noise, so I went back into his bedroom. 260 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,680 Bishop Rushman was laying on the floor. 261 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,760 There was blood all over everything. 262 00:22:24,220 --> 00:22:28,180 And then I seen a shadow. I seen a person. 263 00:22:29,570 --> 00:22:31,250 leaning over Bishop Rushman. 264 00:22:33,370 --> 00:22:37,670 It looked up, and then it came at me, and that's when I lost the time. 265 00:22:39,610 --> 00:22:41,170 What does that mean, lost time? 266 00:22:42,810 --> 00:22:44,690 I blacked out. 267 00:22:47,010 --> 00:22:49,330 It happens to me sometimes. 268 00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:54,670 I have spells. 269 00:22:57,580 --> 00:23:01,480 I lose time. I can't remember nothing. 270 00:23:07,540 --> 00:23:10,760 Why did you run from the police if you didn't do anything wrong? 271 00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:17,000 Well, when I woke up, I was covered in blood. 272 00:23:18,540 --> 00:23:23,980 I didn't know what to do. I got scared. I heard sirens, so I ran. 273 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,960 Look, I know how it looks, Mr. Bell, but I swear... Yeah, I don't need you to 274 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,940 try to convince me, Aaron. I just want you to answer my question. But I didn't 275 00:23:32,940 --> 00:23:35,960 do this. You've got to believe me. No, I don't have to believe you. I don't 276 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:36,939 care. 277 00:23:36,940 --> 00:23:42,220 I'm your attorney, which means I am your mother, your father, your best friend, 278 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,320 and your priest. 279 00:23:45,060 --> 00:23:47,740 In other words, I don't want you talking to anyone but me from now on. 280 00:23:48,020 --> 00:23:51,280 Not the cops, not the press, not the other guys in the cells here. Nobody. 281 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,780 Without my permission. You understand? 282 00:23:53,970 --> 00:23:54,970 Yeah? 283 00:23:55,770 --> 00:23:57,010 Yes, yes, I do. 284 00:23:57,650 --> 00:23:58,650 All right. 285 00:23:58,970 --> 00:24:00,350 Now the important stuff. 286 00:24:00,670 --> 00:24:01,670 What's your suit size? 287 00:24:03,650 --> 00:24:04,650 My what? 288 00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:06,310 Suit size. About a 38. 289 00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:09,070 Oh. 290 00:24:11,770 --> 00:24:12,770 I don't know. 291 00:24:13,930 --> 00:24:15,310 About a 38 long. 292 00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:17,870 Okay. 293 00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:21,730 Stampler was flushed by the police from his hiding place in the bushes behind 294 00:24:21,730 --> 00:24:22,730 the cathedral. 295 00:24:22,910 --> 00:24:25,530 The police chased him through the train yard just north of McCormick Place, 296 00:24:25,670 --> 00:24:29,550 almost losing him as he scrambled over tracks before an oncoming train 297 00:24:29,550 --> 00:24:30,930 separating him from the police. 298 00:24:31,310 --> 00:24:35,330 In a later development, prominent local criminal defense attorney Martin Vail is 299 00:24:35,330 --> 00:24:38,770 believed to have visited Stampler at the Maxwell Street precinct. After a brief 300 00:24:38,770 --> 00:24:42,690 chase across the rail yard behind St. Michael's Cathedral, Stampler was 301 00:24:42,690 --> 00:24:45,210 apprehended in a hole beneath train tracks. 302 00:24:45,690 --> 00:24:51,390 Thank you very much. Thank you. 303 00:24:53,210 --> 00:24:54,970 We've taken the first step in the process. 304 00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:57,010 I can now take your questions. 305 00:24:58,070 --> 00:25:01,910 Can you tell us anything about the altar boy group that Aaron Stampler was part 306 00:25:01,910 --> 00:25:05,630 of? Not much at this time. Have you heard of the involvement of any of the 307 00:25:05,630 --> 00:25:09,570 altar boys? We have no reason to suspect anyone other than Stampler. He had 308 00:25:09,570 --> 00:25:11,050 access to the Archbishop's quarters. 309 00:25:11,270 --> 00:25:14,490 He was caught fleeing the area of St. Michael's. The blood -soaked Aaron 310 00:25:14,490 --> 00:25:18,350 Stampler was chased down under McCormick Place, but not before he was almost 311 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:19,930 killed by a passing train. 312 00:25:26,370 --> 00:25:27,570 Sylvie! Yeah. 313 00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:30,330 Sorry I'm late. We have a new client. 314 00:25:30,790 --> 00:25:32,250 I was afraid you were going to say that. 315 00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:33,870 Who? 316 00:25:33,930 --> 00:25:35,730 You know what they're calling him already. 317 00:25:36,210 --> 00:25:37,750 The butcher boy of St. Mike's. 318 00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:41,010 I like that. Well, that's good. You're going to be hearing it a lot. This kid 319 00:25:41,010 --> 00:25:43,730 who chopped up the Archbishop, he's our new client? Tommy, you're going to have 320 00:25:43,730 --> 00:25:47,010 to try harder to get the word allegedly into your vocabulary, especially if you 321 00:25:47,010 --> 00:25:47,729 want to be a lawyer. 322 00:25:47,730 --> 00:25:48,810 There you go. Tommy, you want coffee? 323 00:25:49,030 --> 00:25:49,989 No, no thanks. 324 00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:54,210 He admits he was in the room when the killing occurred, but he didn't actually 325 00:25:54,210 --> 00:25:55,179 see it happen. 326 00:25:55,180 --> 00:25:56,180 Can I stop you right there? 327 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,360 He's returning a book to the Archbishop. 328 00:25:58,620 --> 00:26:00,680 He heard loud noises in the bedroom. 329 00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:02,620 He went in. 330 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,000 He sees a figure. 331 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,560 Someone in the shadows kneeling over the body. 332 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,040 He blacks out. 333 00:26:08,380 --> 00:26:12,620 Next thing he knows, sirens are screaming. He's covered in blood. The 334 00:26:12,620 --> 00:26:13,640 him in a train tunnel. 335 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,880 He's got the Archbishop's ring in his pocket. 336 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,240 He stole the Archbishop's ring? I didn't say that. I said it was in his pocket. 337 00:26:24,430 --> 00:26:25,430 Is that it? 338 00:26:28,530 --> 00:26:29,530 Yep. 339 00:26:31,910 --> 00:26:37,530 That's, um... That's bullshit, Marty. That's the worst bullshit story I've 340 00:26:37,530 --> 00:26:38,530 heard in my entire life. 341 00:26:38,590 --> 00:26:40,110 Now, it's our bullshit story. 342 00:26:41,070 --> 00:26:42,250 Okay, let's get to work. 343 00:26:43,470 --> 00:26:45,110 Now, the name of the game here is motive. 344 00:26:45,730 --> 00:26:50,350 As in, the prosecution doesn't have one. So, what we have to do here is prove 345 00:26:50,350 --> 00:26:52,170 that someone else could have committed the crime. 346 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,900 Then we can establish reasonable doubt. So I want to know everything I can about 347 00:26:55,900 --> 00:27:00,660 this guy, everything he was into. We go to database, go to Hall of Records, IRS 348 00:27:00,660 --> 00:27:02,860 files, even his so -called charities. 349 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,480 So -called? I was a priest, for Christ's sake. 350 00:27:07,180 --> 00:27:08,220 Now we're at this time. 351 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,760 B32 .156. 352 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,960 That was carved into the Archbishop's chest. 353 00:27:14,380 --> 00:27:18,440 Allegedly. No, that was a fact. But I appreciate the effort, Tommy. 354 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,720 Thanks. 355 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,100 I also need case histories on murder by stabbing, murder by mutilation, murder 356 00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:25,100 by religion. 357 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,800 Also, I'm going to need a psychiatrist. 358 00:27:27,180 --> 00:27:28,180 You're telling me. 359 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,660 And not the kind that lives in a witness box, either. I need a real one this 360 00:27:31,660 --> 00:27:35,720 time. And someone who knows about amnesia. What does he look like in 361 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,320 The butcher boy? 362 00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:41,340 Like a Boy Scout. 363 00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:43,180 A Boy Scout. 364 00:27:44,260 --> 00:27:45,980 With a merit badge and carving. 365 00:27:47,499 --> 00:27:50,300 The Archbishop was a close personal friend of Mr. Shaughnessy. 366 00:27:50,660 --> 00:27:53,220 He came to me earlier this morning and asked me who was my best man. 367 00:27:53,460 --> 00:27:54,460 I said you. 368 00:27:55,260 --> 00:27:56,260 Thank you. 369 00:27:57,140 --> 00:28:00,360 I trust Mr. Shaughnessy. If I am to prosecute this case, I'll be given the 370 00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:01,700 authority which comes with the assignment. 371 00:28:02,980 --> 00:28:04,200 You're the one trying the case. 372 00:28:05,340 --> 00:28:07,000 Let's establish one thing at the outset. 373 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,640 I want the death penalty. 374 00:28:10,830 --> 00:28:14,430 I'd like an opportunity to go over the case before we make a determination on 375 00:28:14,430 --> 00:28:17,050 whether or not to seek the death penalty. I'm open to anything you have 376 00:28:17,090 --> 00:28:18,850 Janet. But in my mind, there's no debate. 377 00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:22,590 Did he say anything? 378 00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:23,910 The boy they picked up? 379 00:28:24,690 --> 00:28:25,710 Yeah, he didn't do it. 380 00:28:27,390 --> 00:28:28,590 It's a slam dunk, Janet. 381 00:28:30,370 --> 00:28:34,070 Excuse me. I appreciate your faith in me, and I don't mean to be 382 00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:37,690 Hey, that's what we pay you for. But if it's as open and shut as you say it is, 383 00:28:37,730 --> 00:28:38,669 then you don't need me. 384 00:28:38,670 --> 00:28:39,670 The P. deal. 385 00:28:39,930 --> 00:28:42,250 Plead no contest, throw the kid on the mercy of the court. 386 00:28:43,370 --> 00:28:44,610 There's not a public defender. 387 00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:47,470 He's got a lawyer? 388 00:28:48,390 --> 00:28:49,390 Already? Who? 389 00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:55,290 Hey, I'm Martin Vale. 390 00:28:56,130 --> 00:28:57,710 I'm defending Aaron Stampler. 391 00:28:58,850 --> 00:29:00,230 What did Inspector Mover say? 392 00:29:00,930 --> 00:29:02,090 Oh, the booker boy, huh? 393 00:29:03,450 --> 00:29:04,450 Thank you. Yes. 394 00:29:04,810 --> 00:29:05,850 Forgot his real name. 395 00:29:12,430 --> 00:29:13,430 What's the matter, Marty? 396 00:29:14,410 --> 00:29:15,410 Lost your faith? 397 00:29:16,210 --> 00:29:17,370 Looking for a little religion? 398 00:29:17,910 --> 00:29:21,410 Now, tell me, Counselor, which one of us is the true headline chaser here? 399 00:29:22,290 --> 00:29:24,270 Unlike you, I was assigned to this case. 400 00:29:24,550 --> 00:29:25,890 Yeah? And you're up to it? 401 00:29:26,190 --> 00:29:28,150 Sell the book rights yet, or are you going to wait a while? 402 00:29:29,310 --> 00:29:30,350 Want to see some pictures? 403 00:29:34,010 --> 00:29:35,170 Come on, they're kind of cute. 404 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,940 I think you'll agree they clearly show the heinous nature of the crime. 405 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,340 A small piece of advice. 406 00:29:50,940 --> 00:29:52,760 Don't use the word heinous in the courtroom. 407 00:29:53,420 --> 00:29:55,260 Half the jury won't know what you're talking about. 408 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,940 One small piece of advice. 409 00:29:57,180 --> 00:29:59,180 I'm not sitting second chair to you anymore. 410 00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:01,620 In case you hadn't noticed, I graduated. 411 00:30:06,260 --> 00:30:07,720 I had no reason to leave. 412 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,000 You had every reason to leave. 413 00:30:10,220 --> 00:30:13,980 How can you still work for them? What, you really expect me to trot out after 414 00:30:13,980 --> 00:30:14,919 you, Marty? 415 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,620 Quit just because you did? 416 00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:18,900 I don't need a Mercedes. 417 00:30:20,020 --> 00:30:22,720 I don't need to see my face on the evening news. 418 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,000 You knew I was coming here, didn't you? 419 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,200 You knew I would defend him. That's why you took the case. You asked Shawsy for 420 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,560 this, didn't you? Oh, please. 421 00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:40,620 What's the matter, Marty? Are you nervous? 422 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,040 It's been a while since you've repped up against a woman with a brain. 423 00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:50,100 What is the matter? 424 00:30:50,220 --> 00:30:52,080 Are you tired? You haven't been sleeping well? 425 00:30:52,420 --> 00:30:54,040 You're the one with the score to settle, Marty. 426 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,800 I sleep great at night. 427 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:09,959 Where is he? 428 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,960 Over here. 429 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,580 All right, we'll be sitting at a table together, along with two of my 430 00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:35,220 associates. Now, once the charges are read, the judge is going to ask you how 431 00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:36,220 you plead. 432 00:32:37,060 --> 00:32:38,950 Not. Not guilty? No. 433 00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:42,170 But I'm not guilty, Mr. Vail. I don't care. It doesn't matter. 434 00:32:42,450 --> 00:32:43,950 Keep your mouth shut. You don't say anything. 435 00:32:44,250 --> 00:32:45,730 Well, you're going to say I'm not guilty. 436 00:32:46,830 --> 00:32:49,610 I'll say whatever I say. You don't have to worry about it. But, Mr. Vail, I... 437 00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:52,290 This is exactly what I'm talking about. This can't go on in the courtroom, so 438 00:32:52,290 --> 00:32:53,330 you might as well get used to it now. 439 00:32:53,790 --> 00:32:54,790 I speak. 440 00:32:54,890 --> 00:32:56,170 You do not speak. 441 00:32:56,570 --> 00:32:58,350 Your job is just to sit there and look innocent. 442 00:32:58,650 --> 00:32:59,650 Well, I am innocent. 443 00:33:01,590 --> 00:33:05,230 That's it. That's exactly how I want you to look. That's exactly it. Now, can 444 00:33:05,230 --> 00:33:07,390 you remember that? Look in the mirror if you have to. That's the look. 445 00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:09,640 I don't have to. This is how I always look. 446 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,760 Well, then you're way ahead of the game already, aren't you? 447 00:33:14,940 --> 00:33:15,940 Don't smile. 448 00:33:30,650 --> 00:33:32,270 No, we're going to find out what happened here. 449 00:33:32,950 --> 00:33:36,070 The only pressure is to find the truth. 450 00:33:37,450 --> 00:33:39,790 You've been talking to the police again, haven't you? I told you not to. 451 00:33:40,170 --> 00:33:41,450 As usual, they get everything wrong. 452 00:33:41,730 --> 00:33:44,230 Come on, how are you going to explain the fact that he had bloodstained 453 00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:46,730 on him? We all saw that. At this juncture, I'm not going to explain it at 454 00:33:46,890 --> 00:33:48,650 I've only recently been retained in this case. 455 00:33:49,170 --> 00:33:52,190 Significant facts are in dispute here and continue to be in dispute. 456 00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:56,630 Marty, you're a master at putting the victim on trial to help your own client. 457 00:33:56,750 --> 00:34:01,250 That's going to be very difficult in this case. A victim in this case is my 458 00:34:01,250 --> 00:34:05,270 client. We have two victims here and no suspects. Thank you very much. Are you 459 00:34:05,270 --> 00:34:06,610 worried about his safety, Marty? No, thank you. 460 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,600 There won't be any questions. 461 00:34:24,699 --> 00:34:25,699 All right. 462 00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:36,360 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. 463 00:34:38,500 --> 00:34:41,659 Bayliss. State versus Aaron Stempler. 464 00:34:42,460 --> 00:34:44,840 Is everyone here? Sit down. Is everyone here? 465 00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:46,100 Yes, Your Honor. 466 00:34:46,860 --> 00:34:48,040 Madam Prosecutor. 467 00:34:48,969 --> 00:34:52,350 The state charges the prisoner Aaron Stampler with the crime of murder in the 468 00:34:52,350 --> 00:34:53,350 first degree. 469 00:34:53,530 --> 00:34:56,949 How does your client plead, Counselor? Your Honor, if it pleases the court, I 470 00:34:56,949 --> 00:35:00,970 need time to make a complete psychiatric evaluation before any charges are 471 00:35:00,970 --> 00:35:03,250 brought against him. The state has more than enough evidence to warrant the 472 00:35:03,250 --> 00:35:04,870 allegations, Your Honor. I agree. Motion denied. 473 00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:10,570 Mr. Stampler, do you understand the charges brought against you? 474 00:35:10,890 --> 00:35:14,870 Yes. Your Honor, I direct my client not to answer that question on the grounds 475 00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:16,550 that his response may tend to incriminate him. 476 00:35:17,390 --> 00:35:20,430 The defendant is taking the fifth on whether or not he understands the 477 00:35:20,670 --> 00:35:24,650 Yes, Your Honor. Until we have a complete psychological evaluation, he 478 00:35:24,650 --> 00:35:27,350 taking the fifth on any and all questions posed to him. 479 00:35:27,950 --> 00:35:28,948 State v. 480 00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:31,990 Appleby, your review of precedent. 481 00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:33,550 Thank you. 482 00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:52,500 I can't do that. No. 483 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,240 What do you want? 484 00:35:57,860 --> 00:36:01,040 I'm looking for the room of a kid named Aaron Stampler Stadium. 485 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,640 You're the police? 486 00:36:05,780 --> 00:36:06,780 I'm his uncle. 487 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,760 Thank you. 488 00:37:10,919 --> 00:37:13,720 Go ahead. 489 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,200 This is Alex's. 490 00:37:25,450 --> 00:37:26,450 Who's Alex? 491 00:37:26,970 --> 00:37:29,230 He's one of the other altar boys. 492 00:37:29,610 --> 00:37:30,610 An altar boy? 493 00:37:30,990 --> 00:37:32,270 An altar boy was wearing this? 494 00:37:33,950 --> 00:37:35,950 Well, not at the mass. 495 00:37:37,950 --> 00:37:41,250 Well, this altar boy attacked a colleague of mine. He hurt him pretty 496 00:37:46,190 --> 00:37:47,910 What do you think he was doing there in your room? 497 00:37:48,430 --> 00:37:49,430 My room? Yeah. 498 00:37:54,730 --> 00:37:55,730 I don't know. 499 00:37:56,190 --> 00:37:58,330 I mean, I don't. I don't have nothing. 500 00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:59,550 Know where I could find him? 501 00:37:59,570 --> 00:38:00,570 Who? 502 00:38:01,150 --> 00:38:02,210 Alex? Uh -huh. 503 00:38:03,290 --> 00:38:05,390 No, I don't know where he is. You don't? 504 00:38:07,630 --> 00:38:08,630 Who's Linda? 505 00:38:09,550 --> 00:38:10,550 Linda? 506 00:38:14,510 --> 00:38:14,930 Is 507 00:38:14,930 --> 00:38:21,950 she 508 00:38:21,950 --> 00:38:22,950 your girlfriend? 509 00:38:24,980 --> 00:38:26,140 Where is she? I'd like to talk to her. 510 00:38:27,660 --> 00:38:29,400 I don't know where she is. 511 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,400 Why did I get this feeling you're not telling me something, Aaron? I'm telling 512 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,520 you the truth. I don't think so. 513 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,240 Are you surprised that Alex attacked my friend? 514 00:38:40,020 --> 00:38:41,020 No. 515 00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:42,920 No, I mean, he has a temper. 516 00:38:43,220 --> 00:38:44,380 Yeah, I'd say so. 517 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,500 Let me ask you this. Do you think it could be Alex? 518 00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:51,780 Who was that figure you saw at the Archbishop's room? 519 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,320 Alex, I couldn't be sure. 520 00:38:57,720 --> 00:38:58,720 But it could be him. 521 00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:00,700 I don't know. 522 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,040 Aaron, you're not understanding this. The state wants you dead. If you don't 523 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,460 help me, that's exactly what they're going to get. 524 00:39:06,140 --> 00:39:12,500 I... I'm trying. I can't remember. 525 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,580 I don't understand. Why would Alex want to do such a thing? For his own reasons. 526 00:39:18,740 --> 00:39:19,900 Maybe someone hired him. 527 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,400 Hired by who? 528 00:39:24,730 --> 00:39:30,450 What I need to know is, do you think he's capable of doing it? 529 00:39:30,970 --> 00:39:37,170 I don't know. I don't know who's capable of such a thing, Mr. Vail. 530 00:39:44,090 --> 00:39:45,090 Oh, thanks. 531 00:39:45,130 --> 00:39:46,130 Sure. 532 00:39:47,110 --> 00:39:51,110 So he claims there was someone else in the room and that he can't remember. 533 00:39:52,970 --> 00:39:56,570 And you want me to look into this amnesia question and see what he 534 00:39:56,570 --> 00:39:57,570 knows? Yeah. 535 00:39:58,290 --> 00:39:59,490 What if he knows he did it? 536 00:40:00,810 --> 00:40:05,890 Major causes of amnesia are substance abuse, seizures, head injuries, and 537 00:40:05,890 --> 00:40:06,890 malingering. 538 00:40:07,770 --> 00:40:11,650 I think the kid's telling the truth. 539 00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:15,630 Okay. 540 00:40:16,450 --> 00:40:17,830 Then let's get something straight. 541 00:40:18,850 --> 00:40:20,910 I'm more than happy to go in and analyze him. 542 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,000 In fact, I'm looking forward to it. 543 00:40:23,820 --> 00:40:26,000 But I won't go in there to validate his story, understood? 544 00:40:27,220 --> 00:40:29,140 You do your job, I do mine, yada, yada. 545 00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:30,340 That's right. 546 00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:35,320 Listen, if I think it's necessary, I'd want to get an MRI, EEG, and neuropsych 547 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,320 testing, agreed? 548 00:40:36,780 --> 00:40:38,300 Yes, doctor. Good night, doctor. 549 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:39,600 Good night. 550 00:40:45,820 --> 00:40:47,860 I'll be recording our meetings for Mr. Vale. 551 00:40:48,410 --> 00:40:52,010 So what we talk about isn't as confidential the way it might be if you 552 00:40:52,010 --> 00:40:53,610 consulting with the doctor for help. 553 00:40:54,210 --> 00:40:57,450 You may even call me as a witness. So if you have any questions about what I've 554 00:40:57,450 --> 00:40:59,730 just said, you should raise them now while he's still here. 555 00:41:00,190 --> 00:41:01,190 No, no. 556 00:41:01,390 --> 00:41:02,390 No, ma 'am, I understand. 557 00:41:02,890 --> 00:41:03,890 Good. 558 00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:05,470 So, okay. 559 00:41:06,010 --> 00:41:07,590 I think we'll be fine. All right. 560 00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:08,910 I'll see you later. 561 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,500 Mr. Veal told me that there was a period of time surrounding the Archbishop's 562 00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:24,640 death that you don't remember. 563 00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:26,140 Is that right? 564 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,700 Yeah, yes. I lost the time. 565 00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:33,600 I mean, I blacked out. 566 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:36,300 Have you had these blackouts before? 567 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:37,860 Yes, yes, I have. 568 00:41:38,620 --> 00:41:40,540 When's the first time you remember them happening? 569 00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:48,460 They started when I was about 12, maybe. 570 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,080 Were your parents aware of what was happening to you? 571 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:56,320 No, no, no. My mother was dead. 572 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,600 And your father? 573 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,820 No, no, no. 574 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,980 He was not a nice man. 575 00:42:06,940 --> 00:42:08,180 Did you seek treatment? 576 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,280 Did I what? 577 00:42:11,020 --> 00:42:12,720 Did you see a doctor for them? 578 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:14,240 Oh. 579 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,160 No, no. 580 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,920 You don't go see a doctor in Creekside unless your leg's broke. 581 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,040 Hey. 582 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,280 Can I talk to you? 583 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,800 Talk. 584 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,580 Excuse us. I'll bring her right back. 585 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,080 How dare you? What am I? I'm some kind of chess piece you can just move around? 586 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,360 I was in the middle of my lunch. When are we getting over Discovery? 587 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,200 What do you want, Marty? I want to know when we're getting all the discovery 588 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,720 I've got amongst Mr. Farrell. No, you don't. 589 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,480 You're looking to make a deal. 590 00:42:54,620 --> 00:43:00,040 I have no authority to deal. I haven't discussed this with my client. Would you 591 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,620 excuse me? Well, if I thought we needed to make a deal, I have all the authority 592 00:43:03,620 --> 00:43:04,620 I want. 593 00:43:04,780 --> 00:43:05,780 Bullshit. 594 00:43:05,940 --> 00:43:08,720 Shaughnessy wants the whole shot on this, and he's using you to get it. 595 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,420 Anybody in your position would deal this down to murder with no death penalty. 596 00:43:12,460 --> 00:43:13,460 My position? 597 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,480 We have a fucking great case. 598 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:17,640 Great case? 599 00:43:18,580 --> 00:43:23,180 Lack of prior record, no eyewitness, no confession, no motive. Hard evidence. 600 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,000 I assume this conversation means you're not going with insanity, which is a 601 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,600 shame. My shrinks would have torn him apart. 602 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,100 By the way, your pleading the fifth on the charges was brilliant. 603 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,640 It was good, wasn't it? 604 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,920 Yeah. All right. 605 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,500 You lose this case, you take the fall, not Shaughnessy. 606 00:43:45,759 --> 00:43:46,759 Talk to me. 607 00:43:48,220 --> 00:43:49,380 We're going to trial, Marty. 608 00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:52,780 All right. All it takes is one. 609 00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:58,040 Just one juror doesn't believe he did it. One juror with a kid his age looks 610 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,720 into that face. I've got to admit, that face is great. Are you prepping him to 611 00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:03,840 take a stand? That stutter, it's priceless. 612 00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:08,900 Oh, Marty. 613 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,720 Don't tell me you think he didn't do it. 614 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,440 Has little Aaron Stampler gotten to you? 615 00:44:16,220 --> 00:44:17,920 We're not just talking about jail here. 616 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,820 It's about ending someone's life. 617 00:44:20,820 --> 00:44:23,980 If you're wrong, Chauncey's made you do this. You gonna be able to live with it? 618 00:44:24,380 --> 00:44:25,380 I'll live. 619 00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:29,700 See you in court. 620 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,180 Your Honor, we stipulate that murder was done here. 621 00:44:36,549 --> 00:44:39,690 Therefore, these photographs have no remaining probative value. This is not 622 00:44:39,690 --> 00:44:43,050 murder. This is a case of mutilation and torture. The only reason the 623 00:44:43,050 --> 00:44:45,850 prosecution wants to show these gory pictures to the jury is shock appeal. 624 00:44:45,850 --> 00:44:48,610 is not true, Your Honor. They should be excluded. They clearly identify the 625 00:44:48,610 --> 00:44:52,090 heinous nature of the crime, and they connect the defendant, who was found 626 00:44:52,090 --> 00:44:54,410 covered in blood, to the crime scene. Perjudicial. 627 00:44:54,610 --> 00:44:57,010 I beg to differ. Beg all you want. I don't care. Counsel, please. 628 00:44:57,410 --> 00:44:59,230 The photographs are in, Mr. Vail. 629 00:44:59,530 --> 00:45:02,850 Now, would you two like a reset so you can carry on this discussion in private? 630 00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:04,550 I'm sorry, Your Honor, but this is too much. 631 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,120 Next thing you know, he'll be objecting if we want to bring in the murder 632 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,120 weapon. 633 00:45:11,060 --> 00:45:18,060 Well, now that she brings it up... This is 634 00:45:18,060 --> 00:45:19,460 a public building. 635 00:45:26,820 --> 00:45:28,280 Excuse me, Mr. Vail. 636 00:45:29,740 --> 00:45:31,640 Would you sign this for me? 637 00:45:36,460 --> 00:45:38,540 What about Linda? Mr. Bale said she was your girlfriend. 638 00:45:40,660 --> 00:45:41,760 Yes. Yes, she was. 639 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,160 How'd you meet? 640 00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:50,740 Well, we was both at the Saviour House. I was an altar boy. She was 641 00:45:50,740 --> 00:45:53,100 doing work for Bishop Rushman. 642 00:45:54,260 --> 00:45:55,840 What was the relationship like? 643 00:45:56,420 --> 00:45:57,420 Me and Linda? 644 00:45:57,660 --> 00:45:58,660 Mm -hmm. 645 00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:00,520 She's real cultural. 646 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,680 Real cultural and very smart. 647 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,920 We had a nice time together. 648 00:46:09,130 --> 00:46:10,290 We might get married. 649 00:46:13,170 --> 00:46:14,230 Were you sleeping together? 650 00:46:19,470 --> 00:46:20,470 Well, that's private. 651 00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:21,770 I know. I have to ask a question. 652 00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:25,730 Were you having a sexual relationship, Aaron? 653 00:46:29,390 --> 00:46:30,730 Yes. Yes, we were. 654 00:46:31,650 --> 00:46:33,550 Were you sleeping with anyone else at the time? 655 00:46:35,410 --> 00:46:36,410 No. 656 00:46:37,450 --> 00:46:38,450 Was she? 657 00:46:47,950 --> 00:46:49,010 Has she been to see Aaron? 658 00:46:57,770 --> 00:47:00,410 Well, no, but... Did that upset you? 659 00:47:04,830 --> 00:47:07,510 No, no. Thing is, she went away. 660 00:47:09,570 --> 00:47:10,930 She went away for a while. 661 00:47:12,330 --> 00:47:15,610 She left before this happened, I don't even think. 662 00:47:17,009 --> 00:47:18,250 Don't even think she knows about it. 663 00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:34,850 Hey, you got something for me? 664 00:47:35,070 --> 00:47:36,070 Yeah. 665 00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:41,470 There's nothing cataloged at the downtown branch under the numbers 666 00:47:41,470 --> 00:47:42,470 don't think the B is a B. 667 00:47:42,830 --> 00:47:43,830 I think it's an A. 668 00:47:44,060 --> 00:47:45,060 I think it's a nice place. 669 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,840 832 -157. 670 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,558 Thomas Jefferson? 671 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,560 I don't think he did it. 672 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,640 All right, well, I'm not going to be much happier with this. A list of the 673 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,840 archbishop's charities and his foundation's investments. 674 00:47:57,100 --> 00:47:59,220 Nothing startling here except for how many there are. 675 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,120 Yeah, yeah. 676 00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:08,140 South... What was he telling me? The South River deal. Pull that up. 677 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:12,920 And then investors. 678 00:48:17,089 --> 00:48:18,089 Shaughnessy? 679 00:48:19,010 --> 00:48:20,210 That's Joey Pinheiro's neighborhood. 680 00:48:21,870 --> 00:48:22,870 See this lot here? 681 00:48:23,430 --> 00:48:24,610 This all used to be house. 682 00:48:25,210 --> 00:48:30,130 In fact, there was a house over there on the corner where I kissed my first 683 00:48:30,130 --> 00:48:31,130 girlfriend. 684 00:48:31,690 --> 00:48:32,770 Got her pregnant, too. 685 00:48:33,870 --> 00:48:35,330 However, kiss, Joey. Oh, yeah. 686 00:48:36,090 --> 00:48:39,710 Anyway, this whole neighborhood's gonna end up high -rent condos. Those guys get 687 00:48:39,710 --> 00:48:40,710 their way. 688 00:48:41,210 --> 00:48:44,070 That's why I'm gonna buy back the lot for the settlement you got me. 689 00:48:44,620 --> 00:48:46,200 You heard about that, right? The money? 690 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:47,880 Who hasn't? 691 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,080 Marty's the best, man. Doing my job. 692 00:48:51,380 --> 00:48:53,780 Yeah, maybe a fucking five. He's just doing his job. 693 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,140 Balderman, Joey tells me a cop came around. 694 00:48:57,700 --> 00:48:58,760 Wanted to set you up. 695 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:01,880 It's typical. 696 00:49:03,180 --> 00:49:05,140 Can't buy me, so they try and buy a brother. 697 00:49:06,540 --> 00:49:10,320 See, most people assume that this land we're walking on belongs to the 698 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,220 But it doesn't. It belongs to the church. 699 00:49:14,570 --> 00:49:15,408 The church. 700 00:49:15,410 --> 00:49:16,410 Mm -hmm. 701 00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:19,530 So that's the Rushman Foundation. 702 00:49:19,950 --> 00:49:20,888 That's right. 703 00:49:20,890 --> 00:49:23,150 Along with a bunch of rich developers. 704 00:49:24,070 --> 00:49:25,930 Including John Shaughnessy. 705 00:49:26,130 --> 00:49:26,749 Oh, yeah. 706 00:49:26,750 --> 00:49:27,790 Then they got greedy. 707 00:49:28,030 --> 00:49:32,850 Started buying up all the land and old buildings around the church property and 708 00:49:32,850 --> 00:49:33,850 tearing it down. 709 00:49:34,610 --> 00:49:36,090 Our old neighborhood was going to disappear. 710 00:49:36,850 --> 00:49:40,070 So I went to the archbishop and I said, what are you doing to these people? 711 00:49:41,210 --> 00:49:42,210 They're poor. 712 00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:44,250 They're getting kicked out of their homes. 713 00:49:45,630 --> 00:49:46,630 And they're Catholic. 714 00:49:47,090 --> 00:49:48,090 Fucking hell. 715 00:49:48,350 --> 00:49:49,350 I listened. 716 00:49:49,650 --> 00:49:50,750 I couldn't believe it. 717 00:49:52,690 --> 00:49:55,110 He told them to stop developing around the trust property. 718 00:49:55,350 --> 00:49:57,370 So the partners are left holding these empty buildings. 719 00:49:57,930 --> 00:50:00,710 They can't knock down the land they can't build on. That's right. 720 00:50:01,530 --> 00:50:02,650 Shaughnessy loses millions. 721 00:50:03,770 --> 00:50:05,490 Look, if I need you to, will you testify? 722 00:50:06,070 --> 00:50:07,049 On me? 723 00:50:07,050 --> 00:50:08,050 Oh, yeah. 724 00:50:08,350 --> 00:50:09,350 Easy. 725 00:50:09,550 --> 00:50:13,870 Just change out of this suit, put on a Brooks Brothers with loafers, passers. 726 00:50:13,870 --> 00:50:15,050 You bet. Thank you. Now you. 727 00:50:17,710 --> 00:50:18,710 Sure. 728 00:50:20,130 --> 00:50:21,130 I'll testify. 729 00:50:24,690 --> 00:50:26,010 Well, you know what people think. 730 00:50:26,410 --> 00:50:28,210 They think this great city runs itself. 731 00:50:28,550 --> 00:50:33,070 They think it gets up and goes to work and climbs into bed at night just like 732 00:50:33,070 --> 00:50:36,370 do. They're unaware of what it takes to make sure the whole damn thing doesn't 733 00:50:36,370 --> 00:50:37,370 break down. 734 00:50:37,570 --> 00:50:38,870 Crime, fires. 735 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,140 Riots. The goddamn water pipes bursting under the city. Christ, what a fucking 736 00:50:44,140 --> 00:50:45,140 mess that was. 737 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,200 I know there's a water commissioner calling. 738 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:48,800 The contractor who built it? 739 00:50:49,020 --> 00:50:50,240 No, he called me. 740 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:51,820 They all call me. 741 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:56,680 Goddamn, that's terrific. 742 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:01,380 They call me because I keep the peace. 743 00:51:02,380 --> 00:51:03,380 That's my job. 744 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,580 This city doesn't burn because I won't commit it. 745 00:51:08,490 --> 00:51:09,810 I'm the great negotiator. 746 00:51:10,650 --> 00:51:11,970 You think people get that? 747 00:51:12,890 --> 00:51:13,930 Who does? I don't care. 748 00:51:14,450 --> 00:51:15,890 Dumb bastards don't even vote. 749 00:51:16,650 --> 00:51:20,370 All they want to do is eat, sleep, watch TV, and occasionally fuck their wives. 750 00:51:21,710 --> 00:51:23,090 Guess we should all thank you. 751 00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:25,710 You're welcome. 752 00:51:27,710 --> 00:51:29,150 John, you need some new material. 753 00:51:30,190 --> 00:51:32,790 I've heard this great city speech ten times already. 754 00:51:36,730 --> 00:51:38,770 Your boy Pinero's not on or on his side of the deal. 755 00:51:40,550 --> 00:51:42,150 Is that what this dinner's about, Pinero? 756 00:51:42,490 --> 00:51:43,490 No, Bart. 757 00:51:44,430 --> 00:51:45,850 I told him what the deal is. 758 00:51:46,770 --> 00:51:47,589 Easy, Corona. 759 00:51:47,590 --> 00:51:48,590 What's the other part? 760 00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:53,690 I understand your assistant's been digging around in the Archive of 761 00:51:53,690 --> 00:51:54,690 Affairs. 762 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,360 Which did you lose when he pulled the plug from South River, John? 763 00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:11,580 Let me tell you something. 764 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,160 It's a mistake to stick your thumb in the eyes of the most powerful people in 765 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,058 the city. 766 00:52:17,060 --> 00:52:18,540 It's not their eyes I'm aiming for. 767 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,880 Do not fuck with me, Marty. 768 00:52:39,980 --> 00:52:41,560 Pipes are bursting again, John. 769 00:52:59,380 --> 00:53:04,060 In the most anticipated murder trial in recent Chicago history, former state's 770 00:53:04,060 --> 00:53:07,820 attorney prosecutor Martin Vail will lead with his opening statement on 771 00:53:07,820 --> 00:53:08,820 of Aaron Stanford. 772 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,620 Richard Rushman was a man of God. 773 00:53:16,340 --> 00:53:19,360 He spent his life giving to the people of Chicago. 774 00:53:20,460 --> 00:53:24,980 He was a beacon of inspiration, not only as a spiritual leader, but as a 775 00:53:24,980 --> 00:53:25,980 citizen. 776 00:53:26,060 --> 00:53:32,880 My name is Martin Vale, and the reason I'm here, and the reason you're here, is 777 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,820 to make sure that the whole truth is known. 778 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,560 Now, we can begin to learn the truth. 779 00:53:38,060 --> 00:53:41,820 By talking about what the prosecution does not want you to hear. Do not be 780 00:53:41,820 --> 00:53:44,860 fooled by the defendant's innocent appearance and demeanor. 781 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:51,060 Aaron Stampler sat in judgment of Archbishop Rushman and determined that 782 00:53:51,060 --> 00:53:55,740 only should he die, but he should die the most brutal way possible. Aaron was 783 00:53:55,740 --> 00:53:58,820 arrested within minutes of the Archbishop's death. We all know that. We 784 00:53:58,820 --> 00:53:59,618 it on television. 785 00:53:59,620 --> 00:54:00,620 But why? 786 00:54:01,180 --> 00:54:05,840 Because? He was convenient because there was enormous pressure on the police to 787 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,220 solve this problem. The evidence will show that Aaron Stampler stalled, 788 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,140 ambushed, and savagely murdered this great man. 789 00:54:13,580 --> 00:54:16,860 Prosecution does not want you to hear about the other altar boys in the church 790 00:54:16,860 --> 00:54:18,600 choir who have mysteriously disappeared. 791 00:54:18,980 --> 00:54:22,100 At the close of evidence, ladies and gentlemen, you will learn that Aaron 792 00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:25,140 Stampler had everything he needed for the perfect assassination. 793 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,860 Using this knife, Aaron Stampler repeatedly... 794 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,760 stabbed at the Archbishop's chest, his genitals, his eyes. 795 00:54:35,980 --> 00:54:40,200 They don't want you to hear that the Archbishop made investments on behalf of 796 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,980 the Roman Catholic Church and that those investments resulted in huge losses to 797 00:54:44,980 --> 00:54:46,420 some very, very powerful people. 798 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,180 They don't want you to hear about the 20 death threats this year alone that the 799 00:54:51,180 --> 00:54:54,820 Archbishop received prior to his death. And they really don't want you to hear 800 00:54:54,820 --> 00:54:56,960 about their theory of motive. 801 00:54:57,500 --> 00:54:58,500 Why is that? 802 00:54:58,560 --> 00:54:59,560 Very simple. 803 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,380 Inspector Woodside, can you explain to the court where these sneakers came 804 00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:15,100 They were taken off the defendant when he was apprehended. 805 00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:19,420 And what was the result of the bloodstain analysis done on them? The 806 00:55:19,420 --> 00:55:23,220 the analysis proved to be human blood matching the blood type and DNA 807 00:55:23,220 --> 00:55:25,200 characteristics of Archbishop Rushmore. 808 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,640 What's the bloody footprint surrounding the body tell you? The killer left a 809 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:34,040 pattern of bloody footprints around the area of the struggle as indicated by the 810 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,520 spread of blood through the room. 811 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,860 All right, yes or no, Inspector? Could there have been a third person in the 812 00:55:39,860 --> 00:55:41,060 Archbishop's quarters that morning? 813 00:55:41,260 --> 00:55:44,280 There is no evidence to suggest that. Oh, but there's no evidence to prove 814 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,800 wasn't? No. 815 00:55:46,020 --> 00:55:48,020 And after the struggle, what happened then? 816 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,320 Well, analysis suggests that the killer was startled during the mutilation and 817 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,340 ran from the bedroom down the stairs. 818 00:55:54,620 --> 00:56:01,320 Is it possible, Inspector, that the real killer, the third person, who 819 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,070 maybe was smart enough not to tramp a whole freeway of blood... The whole 820 00:56:06,070 --> 00:56:11,250 here. Couldn't this third person have placed the defendant's prints on the 821 00:56:11,250 --> 00:56:12,310 while he was passed out? 822 00:56:12,850 --> 00:56:14,430 Mr. Vail, anything is possible. 823 00:56:14,810 --> 00:56:18,210 So clearly the victim suffered a great number of stab wounds. 824 00:56:18,490 --> 00:56:19,830 Yes, he did. 78. 825 00:56:20,510 --> 00:56:24,370 He tried to defend himself, and that explains the cuts on the hands and the 826 00:56:24,370 --> 00:56:29,330 forearms. Doctor, isn't it a fact that you can't be sure whether more than one 827 00:56:29,330 --> 00:56:33,690 person inflicted these 78 stab and incised wounds? 828 00:56:34,170 --> 00:56:36,850 That's true, Counselor. It could have been more than one person, but I doubt 829 00:56:36,970 --> 00:56:41,310 From your analysis of the knife wounds, Dr. Weil, do you have an opinion whether 830 00:56:41,310 --> 00:56:44,550 the killer was left -handed or right -handed? Well, the incised wound to the 831 00:56:44,550 --> 00:56:47,450 throat and most of the chest wounds were made from an angle that strongly 832 00:56:47,450 --> 00:56:51,330 suggests that a left -handed person was using the knife. To your knowledge, is 833 00:56:51,330 --> 00:56:52,370 the defendant left -handed? 834 00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:53,630 Yes, he is. 835 00:56:53,730 --> 00:56:56,950 Well, then it's possible that a right -handed person could have deliberately 836 00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:59,450 used his left hand to inflict some of these wounds. 837 00:57:00,130 --> 00:57:01,430 Yes, I suppose that is possible. 838 00:57:01,710 --> 00:57:03,550 Then it would be reasonable to assume... 839 00:57:04,090 --> 00:57:06,910 That there was, in fact, a third person there at the crime scene. 840 00:57:07,790 --> 00:57:08,790 Reasonable note. 841 00:57:09,250 --> 00:57:10,430 But it is possible. 842 00:57:10,830 --> 00:57:14,430 Then following opening statements, it was a day of strong and detailed 843 00:57:14,430 --> 00:57:18,310 from the prosecution's first witnesses, Cook County Forensics Chief Harvey 844 00:57:18,310 --> 00:57:21,230 Woodside and Cook County Medical Examiner Emile Weil. 845 00:57:21,450 --> 00:57:25,570 It was also a day of tough cross -examination of Woodside and Weil by 846 00:57:25,570 --> 00:57:26,930 defense attorney Martin Vale. 847 00:57:27,130 --> 00:57:30,300 By most accounts, though, the prosecution... Captain Center, I would 848 00:57:30,300 --> 00:57:32,420 thank you for all the time you've given us today. 849 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,600 But finally, I would like to turn your attention to the symbol carved into the 850 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:37,600 Archbishop's chest. 851 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,920 Now, would you please tell the jury about that, Captain? 852 00:57:42,220 --> 00:57:48,840 Yes, the letter and the numbers B -32 -156 were carved into the 853 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:49,759 Archbishop's chest. 854 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:50,940 What you just described. 855 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,700 Have you been able to find an identical reference anywhere? 856 00:57:54,060 --> 00:57:55,160 I believe so, yes. 857 00:57:55,740 --> 00:57:56,740 The symbol. 858 00:57:56,970 --> 00:58:03,170 B32 -156, is actually catalog code for a book discovered in a private reading 859 00:58:03,170 --> 00:58:04,870 room located in the church basement. 860 00:58:05,630 --> 00:58:11,850 That particular number, or the B32 part, refers to a book, The Scarlet Letter, 861 00:58:11,970 --> 00:58:18,790 by Nathaniel Hawthorne. When we opened the book to page 156, we discovered 862 00:58:18,790 --> 00:58:19,870 an underlying passage. 863 00:58:21,290 --> 00:58:24,430 Would you please read this underlying passage to the court? 864 00:58:28,110 --> 00:58:34,210 No man, for any considerable period, can wear one face to himself and another to 865 00:58:34,210 --> 00:58:39,050 the multitude without finally getting bewildered as to which may be the true. 866 00:58:40,350 --> 00:58:41,350 Thank you. 867 00:58:45,250 --> 00:58:47,710 What does that passage mean to you, Captain? 868 00:58:48,170 --> 00:58:51,810 Objection. He's a policeman, not an English professor. His interpretation 869 00:58:51,810 --> 00:58:53,290 be speculative and irrelevant. 870 00:58:53,770 --> 00:58:56,610 I didn't hear her ask for an expert opinion. A witness can answer. 871 00:58:58,690 --> 00:59:00,330 Well, to me, it's simple. 872 00:59:00,610 --> 00:59:05,030 The killer thought that his victim was two -faced, dishonest in some way. 873 00:59:05,350 --> 00:59:10,590 In your experience, Captain, do killers ever intentionally leave clues to their 874 00:59:10,590 --> 00:59:13,170 motive? Not often, but it happens. 875 00:59:19,750 --> 00:59:20,750 Thanks. 876 00:59:21,570 --> 00:59:22,710 Thanks, man. Yeah, let's go. 877 00:59:24,170 --> 00:59:25,270 You want to go on that boat? 878 00:59:27,210 --> 00:59:28,430 You underlined that book. 879 00:59:29,690 --> 00:59:31,590 No, no, Mr. Vail. No? 880 00:59:32,790 --> 00:59:33,769 No, Mr. 881 00:59:33,770 --> 00:59:35,750 Vail, I never even opened the Scarlet Letter. 882 00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:39,110 I don't, don't, don't like Hawthorne. 883 00:59:39,530 --> 00:59:42,610 I tried to read that one about the house with the seven somethings in high 884 00:59:42,610 --> 00:59:44,270 school. I couldn't even get past page ten. 885 00:59:46,810 --> 00:59:50,290 I mean, I weren't the only one using Bishop Brushman's library. 886 00:59:50,570 --> 00:59:53,670 You know, everybody borrowed books from Bishop Brushman. 887 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,760 He encouraged it. There was altar boys and staff. Everyone was in there. Go 888 00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:58,760 ahead. 889 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,240 Don't give up, dear. 890 01:00:11,580 --> 01:00:18,020 So, you didn't know anything about it? 891 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,920 No. What about the impact? 892 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,500 Look, I can't talk to you right now. 893 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,060 My officer called you, right? 894 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:25,380 Yeah. Okay, bye. 895 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:26,600 Thanks. See you. 896 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,320 Bye. 897 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:38,460 What the fuck happened in that? 898 01:00:39,620 --> 01:00:42,800 I guess that A was a B after all. 899 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,100 You think this is funny? 900 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:46,760 We're losing this case. 901 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,760 What the hell happened, Tommy? How could you have missed that? 902 01:00:51,050 --> 01:00:54,290 Marty, there are 50 of them, plus the entire Chicago Police Department. How 903 01:00:54,290 --> 01:00:57,510 I to know he had a private reading room in the church? Big job to know. Fuck, 904 01:00:57,510 --> 01:01:00,730 Marty, you want my job? No, I want you to do your fucking job. Marty, come on. 905 01:01:02,770 --> 01:01:05,630 I'm looking at a third man at the pension. Do you know that? Have you 906 01:01:05,630 --> 01:01:08,810 that out yet? I don't have a third man. You know why I don't have a third man? 907 01:01:08,850 --> 01:01:10,510 Because you can't fucking find him. That's why. 908 01:01:11,090 --> 01:01:14,590 Is it that hard to find one indigent kid? Look, maybe we already got the kid 909 01:01:14,590 --> 01:01:15,590 did this. 910 01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:19,390 We have to at least consider the possibility that he did it. 911 01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:22,960 All the hard evidence is pointing towards him and you keep refusing to 912 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,220 at it. I'm not refusing to look at anything. I don't think he did it. 913 01:01:27,540 --> 01:01:28,540 Fuck you two. 914 01:01:28,780 --> 01:01:31,820 We're up there in a couple of days and we got dick. So who's the two of you do 915 01:01:31,820 --> 01:01:33,920 your fucking goddamn jobs, all right? Fuck. 916 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,380 hard for you to come here to Chicago. 917 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:52,440 Didn't know anybody? 918 01:01:53,980 --> 01:01:55,020 No, nobody. 919 01:01:56,460 --> 01:01:57,460 Didn't have any money? 920 01:01:58,860 --> 01:02:00,700 No, nothing. 921 01:02:02,660 --> 01:02:05,220 I want to talk more about your girlfriend Linda now. 922 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:07,200 Can we, Aaron? 923 01:02:23,470 --> 01:02:24,470 I'm sorry. 924 01:02:27,470 --> 01:02:30,710 Do you think we can do this later? 925 01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:32,370 No, I want to stay with this for a minute. 926 01:02:32,570 --> 01:02:36,490 I'm just a little tired. 927 01:02:36,890 --> 01:02:39,410 I know. Why does talking about Linda Forbes upset you? 928 01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:43,370 It doesn't. 929 01:02:45,070 --> 01:02:48,990 I just don't want to talk about it right now. Why not? 930 01:02:50,150 --> 01:02:51,150 Are you all right? 931 01:02:51,450 --> 01:02:57,400 No. my hand hurts okay okay i'm sorry let me just 932 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:04,400 hey you know what 933 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,860 i can do with this thing well how the should i know 934 01:03:35,820 --> 01:03:36,820 What was you saying? 935 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:44,880 Okay. 936 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,820 What do you want? God damn it, I'll kill you. I don't think so, Alex. 937 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:35,200 Drop it. 938 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:37,080 Drop it. 939 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:42,960 Remember me, huh? 940 01:06:43,540 --> 01:06:47,620 My name is Martin Bale. I'll give him a fucking name. He's got no right to it. I 941 01:06:47,620 --> 01:06:48,740 have a fucking right. 942 01:06:49,340 --> 01:06:51,240 I'm not his staff or his attorney, you little shit. 943 01:06:52,260 --> 01:06:55,620 Now, what do you know about the Archbishop's murder? 944 01:07:04,370 --> 01:07:05,790 I swear I know nothing. 945 01:07:07,550 --> 01:07:10,130 What are you doing over there? What are you doing in that man's house? What are 946 01:07:10,130 --> 01:07:11,130 you looking for? 947 01:07:12,290 --> 01:07:13,890 A tape. A tape? 948 01:07:14,610 --> 01:07:15,610 Video tape? 949 01:07:15,630 --> 01:07:16,970 Yeah. Of what? 950 01:07:22,010 --> 01:07:23,010 Sex stuff. 951 01:07:24,430 --> 01:07:25,430 Sex stuff? 952 01:07:26,220 --> 01:07:27,680 You want me to draw a picture for you? 953 01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:29,900 Who? 954 01:07:30,740 --> 01:07:31,740 Ho! 955 01:07:32,820 --> 01:07:33,820 Me, Linda. 956 01:07:37,900 --> 01:07:38,900 And Aaron? 957 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:40,600 Yeah, he shot a two for the Archbishop. 958 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:48,860 Are you telling me that Archbishop Rushman is involved 959 01:07:48,860 --> 01:07:49,860 with sex stuff? 960 01:07:49,900 --> 01:07:52,140 Yeah. He called it purging the devil. 961 01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,180 He'd say a sermon for ten minutes and then he would tell us what to do. 962 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,340 I don't give a fuck what you believe. 963 01:07:58,940 --> 01:07:59,940 Hey, hey, hey. 964 01:08:00,260 --> 01:08:03,540 What are we going to do? What are we going to do with the tape, huh? What are 965 01:08:03,540 --> 01:08:04,540 going to do? Trash it. 966 01:08:04,860 --> 01:08:05,860 He's going to throw it away. 967 01:08:07,020 --> 01:08:07,779 Just one. 968 01:08:07,780 --> 01:08:10,920 One tape. Just one tape. Yeah, yeah, one. He'd use the same one. He'd keep 969 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,980 recording over and over. So what made you think Aaron had this? 970 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,479 I don't know. I thought maybe he got it and he went back and killed him. 971 01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:18,200 I mean, he did kill him, right? 972 01:08:19,899 --> 01:08:20,899 No, he didn't. 973 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,020 So where's this girl? Where's Linda? 974 01:08:30,930 --> 01:08:32,870 She freaked out. She panicked. She split. 975 01:08:33,689 --> 01:08:35,470 I don't know. I'm not expecting any postcards. 976 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:01,439 One bunk and three meals a day. 977 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,700 Hey, you can't arrest me. You're not a cop. I used to be. Is that work for you? 978 01:09:35,050 --> 01:09:36,810 Don't get up. Finish it. It's a good article. 979 01:09:37,029 --> 01:09:38,029 You know the rules. 980 01:09:38,410 --> 01:09:42,649 Don't disturb anything. Don't remove anything. If you do, it's my ass. Yeah, 981 01:09:42,689 --> 01:09:43,349 mine too. 982 01:09:43,350 --> 01:09:44,350 I won't touch anything. 983 01:10:55,059 --> 01:10:58,460 And bring the gospel to everyone. 984 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:04,720 Hello. 985 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,460 Alex. What are you guys watching? 986 01:11:08,890 --> 01:11:10,070 Wait a minute. Go to her. 987 01:11:11,850 --> 01:11:12,850 Good. 988 01:11:13,670 --> 01:11:14,690 Now help her. 989 01:11:17,530 --> 01:11:18,530 That's it Aaron. 990 01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:19,630 Good. 991 01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:21,850 Linda help out. 992 01:11:23,530 --> 01:11:24,530 Good. 993 01:11:25,010 --> 01:11:26,570 Take off her blouse Aaron. 994 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:42,400 Here's motive. 995 01:11:42,660 --> 01:11:44,640 Aaron, take her from behind. 996 01:11:45,940 --> 01:11:47,560 Aaron, take her from behind. 997 01:11:48,180 --> 01:11:49,180 Jesus Christ. 998 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:05,040 I need to 999 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,040 talk to him about it. 1000 01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:08,880 I think there's something we should discuss. I need to be alone with my 1001 01:12:21,710 --> 01:12:22,710 Do you trust me? 1002 01:12:24,670 --> 01:12:25,670 Do you? 1003 01:12:26,170 --> 01:12:28,190 Yeah, yes. Yes, of course I do. 1004 01:12:28,530 --> 01:12:29,530 Good. 1005 01:12:29,730 --> 01:12:31,010 Because I don't trust you. 1006 01:12:36,510 --> 01:12:37,730 I'm going to lay it all out for you. 1007 01:12:41,770 --> 01:12:42,990 I'm losing this case. 1008 01:12:43,270 --> 01:12:46,990 You know why I'm losing this case? Because my fucking client is fucking 1009 01:12:46,990 --> 01:12:49,850 me. I never, never, never, never... 1010 01:12:52,090 --> 01:12:53,690 No more bullshit. No more games. 1011 01:12:56,290 --> 01:12:57,830 Everybody thinks you did this. Everybody. 1012 01:12:58,370 --> 01:13:00,450 I'm the only one who believes you, and I am that close. 1013 01:13:00,830 --> 01:13:03,010 So I want it all out. All of it. Right now. Right here. 1014 01:13:06,350 --> 01:13:07,630 Did you underline that book? 1015 01:13:09,410 --> 01:13:10,770 Hey, hey, hey, look at me. 1016 01:13:11,050 --> 01:13:12,350 Did you underline that book? 1017 01:13:13,190 --> 01:13:16,230 No, no, no. No, I didn't. I don't believe you. 1018 01:13:17,070 --> 01:13:20,630 That is bullshit. I told you. I don't fucking believe you. I told you. 1019 01:13:21,310 --> 01:13:22,310 I saw the tape. 1020 01:13:23,810 --> 01:13:27,490 I saw the tape. I know what he did to you. Now, I want to hear it from you. 1021 01:13:27,510 --> 01:13:28,510 no, no. 1022 01:13:28,650 --> 01:13:29,568 Tell me the whole thing. 1023 01:13:29,570 --> 01:13:32,590 Don't fucking do this. I want you to tell me the truth, and do not even think 1024 01:13:32,590 --> 01:13:35,390 about it. You fucking killed him, didn't you? You did it. You killed him. You're 1025 01:13:35,390 --> 01:13:37,390 so full of shit. You did it, didn't you? Tell me the truth. 1026 01:13:37,630 --> 01:13:40,970 Don't lie to me. You little fuck, you did it. You killed him. You son of a 1027 01:13:40,970 --> 01:13:42,230 bitch. You fucking killed him. No. 1028 01:13:43,450 --> 01:13:44,970 What the hell you want from me now? 1029 01:13:45,450 --> 01:13:48,190 Quit your crying. I can't understand a goddamn word you're saying. 1030 01:13:48,570 --> 01:13:50,310 You little sissy, you make me sick. 1031 01:13:55,070 --> 01:13:56,770 Well, looky here. Who the fuck are you? 1032 01:13:57,050 --> 01:13:58,050 Who the fuck are you? 1033 01:13:58,090 --> 01:13:59,150 Hey, it's a myself check. 1034 01:13:59,510 --> 01:14:00,590 Who the fuck are you? 1035 01:14:04,610 --> 01:14:05,650 I got you now. 1036 01:14:07,310 --> 01:14:08,310 You're the lawyer. 1037 01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:13,650 You his lawyer, ain't you? Yeah. Yeah, with your fancy suit. I heard about you. 1038 01:14:14,750 --> 01:14:15,750 Well, my, my. 1039 01:14:16,170 --> 01:14:18,050 You sure fucked this one up, counselor. 1040 01:14:18,510 --> 01:14:21,150 It sounds to me like they're going to shoot old Aaron so full of poison it's 1041 01:14:21,150 --> 01:14:22,150 going to come out his eyes. 1042 01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:25,070 Where is Aaron? 1043 01:14:25,370 --> 01:14:28,010 Aaron's crying off in some corner somewhere. You scared him off. 1044 01:14:28,430 --> 01:14:29,970 You're going to beat me now, boy. 1045 01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:32,630 I'll give you a beating on principle. 1046 01:14:33,090 --> 01:14:34,090 Look at me. 1047 01:14:34,270 --> 01:14:37,630 You ever come in here and pull any of that tough guy shit on Aaron again, I 1048 01:14:37,630 --> 01:14:41,170 kick your fucking ass to Sunday. Do you understand me? I understand you. I 1049 01:14:41,170 --> 01:14:42,170 understand. 1050 01:14:42,510 --> 01:14:43,890 Aaron gets in trouble, he calls you. 1051 01:14:44,430 --> 01:14:45,430 Yeah, man. 1052 01:14:46,170 --> 01:14:47,850 Well, Aaron couldn't kick his own ass. 1053 01:14:48,310 --> 01:14:52,350 I mean, you seen him with the... Yeah. 1054 01:14:53,670 --> 01:14:55,510 Jesus Christ, he can't handle anything. 1055 01:14:56,010 --> 01:14:58,790 He sure as shit couldn't handle all that preacher's blood, could he? 1056 01:14:59,650 --> 01:15:01,950 If he'd have done like I told him, we wouldn't be in this mess. 1057 01:15:02,290 --> 01:15:07,750 But he got scared and... Ran off, got himself caught, this stupid little shit. 1058 01:15:08,630 --> 01:15:11,790 So Aaron did kill Rushman. 1059 01:15:12,310 --> 01:15:13,310 Hell no! 1060 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,160 Jesus Christ, where'd they find you? Ain't you been listening to me? 1061 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,120 Aaron don't have the guts to do nothing. 1062 01:15:20,340 --> 01:15:21,380 It was me, boy. 1063 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,440 It was me. It was you. Yes, it was. 1064 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:26,720 It was you. 1065 01:15:27,540 --> 01:15:29,380 He come crying to me like always. 1066 01:15:30,620 --> 01:15:34,340 Stuttering and whining. I can't take it no more, Roy. 1067 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,680 You gotta help me, please. Please, Roy. 1068 01:15:38,580 --> 01:15:40,360 I said shut your mouth, you little girl. 1069 01:15:40,940 --> 01:15:43,320 Grow up. Be a man. Take care of yourself. Be a man. You know what I'm 1070 01:15:43,460 --> 01:15:44,460 Yeah. 1071 01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:48,680 His name is Roy. 1072 01:15:50,380 --> 01:15:53,000 Oh, jeez. I'm sorry. What is it, Marty? 1073 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,480 Listen, Marty, I'm dying for a smoke. Do you have a cigarette on you? No, I 1074 01:15:57,480 --> 01:15:58,480 quit. 1075 01:15:59,420 --> 01:16:02,400 Fuck that. I can't live without it. 1076 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:04,620 It's about around here somewhere. Roy. 1077 01:16:06,340 --> 01:16:09,260 Roy. Tell me about Linda. 1078 01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:12,750 Linda? Linda, yeah. 1079 01:16:13,330 --> 01:16:16,370 Well, who the fuck cares about Linda? Well, I care about Linda. I'd like to 1080 01:16:16,370 --> 01:16:17,369 about Linda. 1081 01:16:17,370 --> 01:16:20,530 That little tramp, let me tell you something. Everybody had a piece of her, 1082 01:16:20,530 --> 01:16:21,329 know what I'm saying? 1083 01:16:21,330 --> 01:16:24,610 I mean, she had Aaron wrapped up so tight, he actually thought she was his 1084 01:16:24,610 --> 01:16:25,610 girlfriend. It was pathetic. 1085 01:16:25,810 --> 01:16:26,810 She broke his heart. 1086 01:16:27,870 --> 01:16:30,270 So that's why you had to kill Rushman. 1087 01:16:31,470 --> 01:16:32,470 Because of the sex stuff. 1088 01:16:35,650 --> 01:16:36,650 You've seen the tape. 1089 01:16:41,180 --> 01:16:42,180 Son of a bitch. 1090 01:16:42,460 --> 01:16:44,320 You think I'm playing with you? 1091 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,180 I will break your fucking neck. 1092 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,000 I'm going to ask you again. Have you seen that tape? I saw the tape. Yeah, of 1093 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,940 course I saw the tape. God damn it. God damn it. I told him to get that tape. I 1094 01:16:54,940 --> 01:16:56,900 said get the fucking tape. It's molded, you asshole. 1095 01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,340 This is going to fuck everything up, Marty. Don't you show that to a goddamn 1096 01:17:00,340 --> 01:17:02,900 person. Do you understand me? Do you understand me? 1097 01:17:50,700 --> 01:17:51,700 And this veil. 1098 01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:34,680 I need stitches. 1099 01:18:34,740 --> 01:18:35,740 No. 1100 01:18:39,020 --> 01:18:40,120 He didn't do it. 1101 01:18:40,780 --> 01:18:42,900 Aaron has no idea what just happened in there. 1102 01:18:43,740 --> 01:18:45,560 Let's see, and I'll find the big ones. 1103 01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:50,480 These are background, these repeated blackouts, the ellipses in thought, the 1104 01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:52,700 case ambidextrous. That's what I was trying to tell you when you came in 1105 01:18:52,700 --> 01:18:58,180 tonight. You may be thrilled by all this, but I'm fucked. I don't have a 1106 01:18:59,530 --> 01:19:03,950 It's textbook multiple personality disorder. Put me on the stand, I'll 1107 01:19:04,770 --> 01:19:05,770 He's insane. 1108 01:19:07,010 --> 01:19:12,110 I can't... I can't change a plea in the middle of a trial. 1109 01:19:13,090 --> 01:19:14,590 The judge would never allow it. 1110 01:19:15,150 --> 01:19:17,550 Besides, insanity is the hardest thing to prove. 1111 01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:20,350 Okay. 1112 01:19:21,890 --> 01:19:23,130 My professional opinion? 1113 01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:27,610 This is not a criminal we're dealing with. It's a sick kid. 1114 01:19:28,370 --> 01:19:30,650 He's sitting in a cell and it's not where he belongs. 1115 01:20:40,460 --> 01:20:41,460 Ask it. 1116 01:20:42,380 --> 01:20:43,380 Ask what? 1117 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,320 The question you wanted to ask me before. 1118 01:20:49,700 --> 01:20:54,680 I don't understand, Mr. Bale. How can you defend someone if you know they did 1119 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,260 it? How can you do that? 1120 01:20:56,580 --> 01:20:59,660 How can you fucking defend these fucking scumbags? Isn't that what you wanted to 1121 01:20:59,660 --> 01:21:00,660 ask me? It is, isn't it? 1122 01:21:00,740 --> 01:21:03,580 Huh? All those fucking coy questions, all that bullshit. 1123 01:21:03,900 --> 01:21:05,640 Bottom line is, how can you do what you do? 1124 01:21:23,050 --> 01:21:27,930 The first thing I ask a new client, I say, you been saving up for a rainy day? 1125 01:21:28,850 --> 01:21:29,850 Guess what? 1126 01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:31,950 It's rainy. 1127 01:21:34,010 --> 01:21:37,690 You think it's because I want to see my face in a couple of magazines? 1128 01:21:39,530 --> 01:21:41,090 About 15 seconds on TV? 1129 01:21:41,530 --> 01:21:44,330 I love it. I fucking love that shit. I really do. 1130 01:21:45,930 --> 01:21:46,930 But guess what? 1131 01:21:48,430 --> 01:21:49,430 That's not it. 1132 01:21:53,870 --> 01:21:54,870 You go to Las Vegas? 1133 01:21:55,870 --> 01:21:56,870 Yeah. 1134 01:21:56,970 --> 01:21:57,970 No, I don't go to Vegas. 1135 01:21:59,450 --> 01:22:02,170 Why do you think I don't go to Vegas? Marty, it's late. I think that we should 1136 01:22:02,170 --> 01:22:06,170 both just get up and go. Why gamble with money when you can gamble with people's 1137 01:22:06,170 --> 01:22:07,170 lives? 1138 01:22:10,250 --> 01:22:11,250 That was a joke. 1139 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,400 I believe in the notion that people are innocent until proven guilty. 1140 01:22:27,340 --> 01:22:32,420 I believe in that notion because I choose to believe in the basic goodness 1141 01:22:32,420 --> 01:22:33,420 people. 1142 01:22:34,700 --> 01:22:39,120 I choose to believe that not all crimes are committed by bad people. 1143 01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:46,180 And I try to understand that some very, very good people do some very bad 1144 01:22:46,180 --> 01:22:47,180 things. 1145 01:23:03,180 --> 01:23:05,640 You know, when I was working for Shaughnessy. 1146 01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:13,360 I did something very, very bad. Maybe illegal. I was the prosecutor. 1147 01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:20,700 This thing that I did, I was very upset by it. I decided I'd leave. So I left. I 1148 01:23:20,700 --> 01:23:23,680 became a defending attorney. 1149 01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,400 Irony being that everyone assumes I'm fucking lying. 1150 01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,760 Anyhow, I made myself this little promise. 1151 01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,820 I would reserve my lies for other than my public life. 1152 01:23:50,380 --> 01:23:52,660 You print any of this, I'll sue your fucking ass. 1153 01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:21,960 Right, all right, so I made a little mistake. 1154 01:24:22,260 --> 01:24:23,260 No shit. 1155 01:24:24,660 --> 01:24:26,620 What do you want? You want a new suit? I'll buy you a new suit. 1156 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:28,920 You made a mistake. 1157 01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,700 You told us the third man did it. So now you got your third man. And a fourth 1158 01:24:33,700 --> 01:24:36,180 man. And a fifth man. What are you going to do, Marty? 1159 01:24:38,340 --> 01:24:39,780 I really fucked up here. 1160 01:24:41,340 --> 01:24:42,340 You were right. 1161 01:24:43,500 --> 01:24:44,820 So how are you going to get him off? 1162 01:24:47,260 --> 01:24:48,260 I don't know. 1163 01:24:49,870 --> 01:24:53,230 What I know is Aaron did not commit first -degree murder. 1164 01:24:53,450 --> 01:24:56,390 Marty, you stabbed him a billion times. No, not Aaron. 1165 01:24:56,990 --> 01:25:01,010 To convict someone of a capital crime, the state must prove intent. 1166 01:25:02,210 --> 01:25:05,650 Roy had intent. Aaron didn't. Yeah, but the only way to prove that is to change 1167 01:25:05,650 --> 01:25:08,710 the plea to insanity, which you can't do mid -trial unless you're planning on a 1168 01:25:08,710 --> 01:25:09,529 career change. 1169 01:25:09,530 --> 01:25:11,210 I could have been mistaken, but I wasn't wrong. 1170 01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:13,650 Aaron is innocent. 1171 01:25:14,150 --> 01:25:15,690 It's Roy who is guilty. 1172 01:25:16,090 --> 01:25:19,710 This kid doesn't need a lawyer. He needs an exorcist. You are so full of shit. 1173 01:25:19,730 --> 01:25:23,190 You were not there and you didn't see it. There's one sick motherfucking boy, 1174 01:25:23,330 --> 01:25:26,370 man, who's been fucked around his whole life by his father, by his priest. 1175 01:25:26,590 --> 01:25:29,890 This kid does not deserve to die. And it's our job to make sure that a jury 1176 01:25:29,890 --> 01:25:31,550 believes he doesn't deserve to die. 1177 01:25:31,790 --> 01:25:32,790 Okay. Okay. 1178 01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:34,110 How do we do it? 1179 01:25:36,430 --> 01:25:38,750 Somehow introducing this whole abuse thing. 1180 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,019 about the tape. 1181 01:25:48,020 --> 01:25:49,020 That's crazy. 1182 01:25:49,140 --> 01:25:50,140 That gives him motive. 1183 01:25:50,340 --> 01:25:56,500 It looks like that, but it's... No, actually, what it does is it turns this 1184 01:25:56,500 --> 01:26:01,680 whole thing around. It gives concrete documentation of what Rushman did to 1185 01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:03,260 kid. But we can't put it in. 1186 01:26:03,620 --> 01:26:04,620 You know that. 1187 01:26:06,060 --> 01:26:07,140 But we're not going to. 1188 01:26:26,540 --> 01:26:27,540 Okay. 1189 01:27:03,500 --> 01:27:04,500 What the hell are you doing? 1190 01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,900 Who is this? You know damn well who it is. 1191 01:27:07,420 --> 01:27:08,420 Barleycorn's Marty now. 1192 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:09,840 Janet? 1193 01:27:10,060 --> 01:27:11,060 Cute porno. 1194 01:27:11,100 --> 01:27:12,100 Part of your collection? 1195 01:27:20,340 --> 01:27:21,340 Hey. 1196 01:27:29,460 --> 01:27:30,460 Where'd you get it? 1197 01:27:31,060 --> 01:27:32,180 Did you steal it? 1198 01:27:32,510 --> 01:27:35,890 Janet, I swear, I don't know anything about this tape. You are such a liar. 1199 01:27:35,990 --> 01:27:39,450 Think about it. I have. If this tape really has on it what you say it does, 1200 01:27:39,450 --> 01:27:42,070 last thing I'd do is give it to you. It gives you motive. You had to give it to 1201 01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:45,730 me. Why? You couldn't introduce it in court. The jury would despise you for 1202 01:27:45,750 --> 01:27:50,070 for dishonoring the bishop's memory. But if you get me to show it, motive or no 1203 01:27:50,070 --> 01:27:54,250 motive, I'm the one who looks bad, and you gain sympathy for your poor little 1204 01:27:54,250 --> 01:27:55,250 abused boy. 1205 01:27:56,750 --> 01:27:57,750 You think so? 1206 01:27:57,850 --> 01:27:58,850 I hate you. 1207 01:28:01,930 --> 01:28:02,930 Don't use it. 1208 01:28:04,950 --> 01:28:06,610 I have no intention of using it. 1209 01:28:09,770 --> 01:28:10,770 Usual stew. 1210 01:28:11,030 --> 01:28:12,030 You got it. 1211 01:28:18,070 --> 01:28:19,570 You're up to even more than that, aren't you? 1212 01:28:20,270 --> 01:28:21,270 I'm not up to anything. 1213 01:28:21,410 --> 01:28:24,070 You're opening a door. You think I'm going to walk through it? There's going 1214 01:28:24,070 --> 01:28:26,590 be a tiger on the other end, and I don't particularly care. It would be really 1215 01:28:26,590 --> 01:28:28,750 upset if you used it. I've just told you I'm not using it. 1216 01:28:29,020 --> 01:28:30,460 Fuck him. Fuck him? 1217 01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:31,760 Fuck you. 1218 01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:37,000 Thanks a lot. 1219 01:28:40,460 --> 01:28:42,260 All right, this is not your motive. What is? 1220 01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:44,160 I have motive. 1221 01:28:45,060 --> 01:28:46,240 Yeah? What is it? 1222 01:28:48,340 --> 01:28:49,760 I'm really going to tell you. 1223 01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,040 Well, you better tell the jury pretty soon. 1224 01:28:53,340 --> 01:28:54,600 Time's running out. Here you go. 1225 01:28:57,900 --> 01:28:59,360 You think you've got me. 1226 01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:07,360 You think because you know me as well as you do, you know how I think. 1227 01:29:08,460 --> 01:29:10,740 Well, I know how you think. 1228 01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:33,940 No, Marty, that was a... I'll talk to you later. 1229 01:29:35,020 --> 01:29:36,540 Later? What, they close in ten minutes? 1230 01:29:36,780 --> 01:29:37,780 No, I have to. 1231 01:29:39,900 --> 01:29:40,900 I've got nothing to lose. 1232 01:29:43,780 --> 01:29:47,020 How can your timing be so good in a quarter? 1233 01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:51,400 Think about it later. 1234 01:30:13,230 --> 01:30:14,990 Where's the tape? There's stuff on that tape. 1235 01:30:16,190 --> 01:30:17,190 Yes, there is. 1236 01:30:18,070 --> 01:30:19,910 Where'd it come from? 1237 01:30:21,230 --> 01:30:23,310 I had it on my front door last night. Who else? 1238 01:30:23,630 --> 01:30:27,250 What do you think he's up to? 1239 01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,740 Cut the crap, Janet. You're doing pretty goddamn well. You were balling it for 1240 01:30:30,740 --> 01:30:32,160 Christ's sake. Where is it? 1241 01:30:32,580 --> 01:30:33,580 At home. 1242 01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,640 My advice for you, if you really have aspirations beyond this particular 1243 01:30:40,740 --> 01:30:44,300 is go home right now and destroy this tape you should have destroyed like I 1244 01:30:44,300 --> 01:30:45,300 the minute you received it. 1245 01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:48,700 You don't think there's an original? 1246 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:53,820 It's Stampler that's on trial, not the Catholic Church. 1247 01:30:54,380 --> 01:30:56,400 And if you haven't found another motive to hang it... 1248 01:31:04,810 --> 01:31:05,810 All right. 1249 01:31:06,510 --> 01:31:07,510 Please sit down. 1250 01:31:11,070 --> 01:31:12,310 Madam Prosecutor. 1251 01:31:16,890 --> 01:31:17,890 Ms. Venable. 1252 01:31:18,750 --> 01:31:19,750 It's Goodman. 1253 01:31:21,790 --> 01:31:22,790 Objection, Your Honor. 1254 01:31:23,190 --> 01:31:26,510 Investigator in this case. And under the work product rule, he can't be 1255 01:31:26,510 --> 01:31:27,510 compelled to testify. 1256 01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,860 Important evidence has just come into my possession, which I believe this 1257 01:31:35,860 --> 01:31:37,060 witness can authenticate. Mr. 1258 01:31:44,300 --> 01:31:46,780 Goodman, have you ever been to my apartment building? 1259 01:31:48,300 --> 01:31:51,060 Allegedly. Oh, I'm sorry. You're configuring to it. 1260 01:31:52,140 --> 01:31:54,840 I have been there. 1261 01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:57,360 I was delivering something. For whom? 1262 01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:01,080 Mr. Vale. 1263 01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:03,920 sent you to deliver something to me? 1264 01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:07,360 A videotape. 1265 01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:08,900 Did this have film? 1266 01:32:09,380 --> 01:32:11,060 I have a feeling it is, yes. 1267 01:32:11,340 --> 01:32:13,860 The people placed this half -inch videocassette... Please index. 1268 01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:18,580 Now, where did Mr. Vale get this tape, if it is indeed the... The closet of 1269 01:32:18,580 --> 01:32:23,200 Archbishop Rushman. He stole it? No, no, he borrowed it and did so. Mm -hmm. 1270 01:32:23,440 --> 01:32:28,820 Can you describe for me what's on this tape? There was a sermon by Archbishop 1271 01:32:28,820 --> 01:32:30,340 Ray, followed by, um... 1272 01:32:33,390 --> 01:32:34,930 A whole movie. Of what? 1273 01:32:35,510 --> 01:32:36,510 Some altar boys. 1274 01:32:36,690 --> 01:32:37,850 And what? 1275 01:32:40,570 --> 01:32:42,070 An altar boy lesson? 1276 01:32:43,370 --> 01:32:44,370 Having sex. 1277 01:32:46,330 --> 01:32:47,890 A porno movie? 1278 01:32:50,050 --> 01:32:57,050 Yes. Yes. This tape, this porno tape, was in the Arch Minded there. He was 1279 01:32:57,050 --> 01:32:59,230 um, the director. 1280 01:32:59,590 --> 01:33:00,890 Who was? Right in the corner. 1281 01:33:03,850 --> 01:33:06,430 And was the defense performing in the Archbishop's home movie? 1282 01:33:08,510 --> 01:33:10,510 Yes, he was. I believe her name is Linda Forbes. 1283 01:33:11,810 --> 01:33:13,030 Yes, she was. 1284 01:33:13,430 --> 01:33:17,250 And it was enjoying performing in this film with his girlfriend? 1285 01:33:18,350 --> 01:33:22,390 I will not ask you, Mr. Goodman, if you think we have just uncovered motive 1286 01:33:22,390 --> 01:33:24,350 here, once we've all seen the videotape. 1287 01:33:25,810 --> 01:33:26,810 No further questions. 1288 01:33:27,430 --> 01:33:29,370 Does defense wish to cross? 1289 01:33:31,090 --> 01:33:32,090 No, Your Honor. 1290 01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:33,720 Courts in recess. 1291 01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:35,800 Bailiff, please set up for the tape. 1292 01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:45,560 Yes, 1293 01:33:46,060 --> 01:33:46,938 yes, she was. 1294 01:33:46,940 --> 01:33:49,580 How did you meet? We were both at the Saigon. 1295 01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:55,300 I was an altar boy, and she was working for Bishop Rushman. 1296 01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:56,840 Doing what? 1297 01:34:01,770 --> 01:34:03,650 Were you sleeping with anyone else at the time? 1298 01:34:05,110 --> 01:34:06,110 No, no. 1299 01:34:06,490 --> 01:34:07,490 Was she? 1300 01:34:09,510 --> 01:34:11,110 No, no, no, no. 1301 01:34:13,790 --> 01:34:15,330 Is she anything to you, Aaron? 1302 01:34:16,630 --> 01:34:17,630 Yeah. 1303 01:34:18,430 --> 01:34:19,610 No, I'm still here now. 1304 01:34:22,490 --> 01:34:23,490 What? 1305 01:35:07,850 --> 01:35:11,090 Mr. Vail, are you prepared to proceed with your first witness? 1306 01:35:24,110 --> 01:35:26,990 Yes, Your Honor. The defense calls John Shaughnessy. 1307 01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:36,060 The people object, Your Honor. Mr. Shaughnessy has never been identified as 1308 01:35:36,060 --> 01:35:37,320 possible witness. Your Honor, may I approach? 1309 01:35:37,620 --> 01:35:38,760 Yes, you may. Thank you. 1310 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:46,800 My client was on trial for his life here. He's always maintained that there 1311 01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:47,800 someone else in that bedroom. 1312 01:35:48,020 --> 01:35:51,260 Do you think Mr. Shaughnessy can somehow confirm that? Your Honor, the 1313 01:35:51,260 --> 01:35:55,060 Constitution of the United States takes precedence here, permitting the calling 1314 01:35:55,060 --> 01:35:57,020 of any witness to promulgate evidence of innocence. 1315 01:35:57,320 --> 01:35:59,400 That's clearly stated in the Sixth Amendment. 1316 01:35:59,740 --> 01:36:01,660 It's also profound in Brady v. Maryland. 1317 01:36:04,059 --> 01:36:08,480 Mr. Jones, you serve on the board of an organization known as the Rushman 1318 01:36:08,480 --> 01:36:12,220 Foundation. I have the privilege to be an honorary board member. Could you 1319 01:36:12,220 --> 01:36:14,900 briefly explain the nature and purpose of this foundation? 1320 01:36:15,220 --> 01:36:17,400 The Rushman Foundation was founded by the late Archbishop. 1321 01:36:17,740 --> 01:36:22,340 Its purpose is to invest in projects for the greater good of the community. 1322 01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:23,600 Greater good of the community. 1323 01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:30,920 Now, would that be true in the case of the now bankrupt South River housing 1324 01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:31,920 development? 1325 01:36:32,260 --> 01:36:36,640 Yes. Did you tell the court why the South River project was abandoned? 1326 01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:39,440 There was a difference of opinion as to the costs. 1327 01:36:40,500 --> 01:36:45,620 Wasn't there also a difference of opinion between the investors and the 1328 01:36:45,620 --> 01:36:46,620 Archbishop himself? 1329 01:36:46,740 --> 01:36:47,740 I don't recall. 1330 01:36:48,660 --> 01:36:52,500 Well, what kind of money are we talking about here? 1331 01:36:52,740 --> 01:36:58,320 I mean, just... How much money, Mr. 1332 01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:00,200 Shaughnessy, was invested... 1333 01:37:00,570 --> 01:37:03,090 In this failed South River enterprise. 1334 01:37:07,630 --> 01:37:08,630 $60 million. 1335 01:37:09,430 --> 01:37:10,430 What? 1336 01:37:10,950 --> 01:37:11,950 $60 million. 1337 01:37:13,270 --> 01:37:14,270 Wow, 1338 01:37:14,950 --> 01:37:15,950 that's a lot of money. 1339 01:37:17,690 --> 01:37:20,290 You and the Archbishop have been friends for, what, 20 years? 1340 01:37:20,890 --> 01:37:23,430 I think it's safe to say that the two of you knew each other really well. 1341 01:37:23,650 --> 01:37:24,329 That's right. 1342 01:37:24,330 --> 01:37:27,670 Were you surprised at the content of that tape that Ms. Venable submitted? 1343 01:37:27,670 --> 01:37:29,650 of course I was. So you never heard any... 1344 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:33,480 allegations, charges against the Archbishop during that time. Not that I 1345 01:37:33,620 --> 01:37:37,120 no. No, especially since you were the State's Attorney for the last 15 years. 1346 01:37:37,420 --> 01:37:41,340 It would be fair to say that you've supervised all the prosecutions in Cook 1347 01:37:41,340 --> 01:37:44,740 County during that time, especially the prosecutions of all the prominent 1348 01:37:44,740 --> 01:37:49,160 figures. I also have a staff of a thousand of the best prosecutors in the 1349 01:37:49,180 --> 01:37:54,080 Yeah, yeah. But as State's Attorney, it was up to you, ultimately, to decide who 1350 01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:55,960 would be indicted and who wouldn't. Yes. 1351 01:37:59,340 --> 01:38:01,380 All right, let me just take you back now. 1352 01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:05,680 Let's go back to June 1985. 1353 01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:11,880 Do you recall any allegations of sexual misconduct against the Archbishop at 1354 01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:12,619 that time? 1355 01:38:12,620 --> 01:38:17,960 I don't recall that, no. Do you recall a young man by the name of Michael 1356 01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:22,780 O'Donnell who came to the felony review unit at your office? 1357 01:38:27,980 --> 01:38:32,760 I have no idea what you're talking about, Nelson. This is confusing to me 1358 01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:37,400 because I have this document here from the Chicago Metropolitan Police 1359 01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:41,980 Department. It says that, yes, Michael O'Donnell spoke to the supervisor of 1360 01:38:41,980 --> 01:38:46,400 unit over a period of two weeks, explaining to him the graphic details, 1361 01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:49,040 abuse he suffered at the hands of Archbishop Rushman. 1362 01:38:50,060 --> 01:38:54,560 Quiet. And isn't it also true, Mr. State's Attorney, that you then decided 1363 01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:58,420 your friend, Archbishop Rushman, was not going to stand trial for any of it? 1364 01:39:00,020 --> 01:39:01,700 He owed you big time, John. 1365 01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:05,400 You must have been really pissed off when he pulled out of South River. 1366 01:39:06,260 --> 01:39:09,840 What happened? What was it? He just finally said, I can't take it anymore. 1367 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:14,980 said, no. Mr. Vail. You and your investors. Mr. Vail. 60 million reasons 1368 01:39:14,980 --> 01:39:17,480 him, you little cocksucker. That's it. Witness dismissed. 1369 01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:21,580 Courts and recess veil in my chambers now. Let's put George Pinheiro in a 1370 01:39:21,580 --> 01:39:22,580 shithead. 1371 01:39:23,740 --> 01:39:28,820 I'm starting looking for a job. 1372 01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:43,680 If you think you can use my courtroom to wage personal vendettas and settle old 1373 01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:45,480 scores, you are sorely mistaken. 1374 01:39:46,460 --> 01:39:50,340 I'm striking Shaughnessy's testimony from the record as irrelevant, and I'm 1375 01:39:50,340 --> 01:39:52,340 holding you in contempt to the tune of $10 ,000. 1376 01:39:53,340 --> 01:39:56,820 So what you're telling me is I can't get a fair trial in your courtroom, is that 1377 01:39:56,820 --> 01:39:58,800 it? Be very, very careful, Mr. Bale. 1378 01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:00,440 You're on dangerous ground here. 1379 01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:04,120 Fine, fine. You want me to make that check out to you, Judge? Do you want me 1380 01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:05,120 take you off this case? 1381 01:40:06,100 --> 01:40:09,320 You're making a mockery in my courtroom, and I am not going to allow it. 1382 01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:14,420 I suggest you start representing your client and stop representing yourself. 1383 01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:25,318 Do this later. 1384 01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:26,720 No, I want to stay with this for a minute. 1385 01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:31,860 I just... I'm feeling very, very, very tired. 1386 01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:33,080 Yeah, I know. 1387 01:40:33,540 --> 01:40:35,840 Why does talking about Linda Forbes upset you? 1388 01:40:36,300 --> 01:40:40,220 It doesn't. It doesn't. I just... Okay. 1389 01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:42,220 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 1390 01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:45,400 Hey, 1391 01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:48,560 you know what I can do with this thing? 1392 01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:50,580 How the fuck should I know? 1393 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:03,680 Dr. Arrington, how much time have you spent with Erin Stampler? 1394 01:41:04,340 --> 01:41:05,660 Around 60 hours. 1395 01:41:05,940 --> 01:41:08,120 And what did you find in the course of your evaluation? 1396 01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:12,080 I found that Mr. Stampler suffers from an acute disassociative condition, 1397 01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:15,160 specifically multiple personality disorder. 1398 01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:18,860 Objection, Your Honor. Dr. Arrington is only stating what she herself has 1399 01:41:18,860 --> 01:41:20,100 personally observed. Your Honor. 1400 01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:21,720 Counselors. 1401 01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:25,860 Now I know what you're doing. Will you excuse us for a minute? 1402 01:41:29,480 --> 01:41:32,240 If he wants to question his client's sanity... Your Honor, I'm trying to 1403 01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:36,020 establish medical basis for amnesia. That is not what he's doing. He's saying 1404 01:41:36,020 --> 01:41:37,020 he's crazy. 1405 01:41:37,740 --> 01:41:38,740 Are you? 1406 01:41:39,860 --> 01:41:40,860 No, I am not. 1407 01:41:41,500 --> 01:41:45,660 I will allow you to proceed with this witness if you are very, very careful. 1408 01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:46,920 Absolutely. 1409 01:41:47,900 --> 01:41:50,140 Yes. Write down that he said that. 1410 01:41:51,620 --> 01:41:52,660 All right, where were we? 1411 01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:06,540 Could Aaron Stampler have been present during the murder of Archbishop Rushman 1412 01:42:06,540 --> 01:42:07,920 and not remember it? 1413 01:42:08,220 --> 01:42:09,039 Yes, he could. 1414 01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:10,160 Okay. Could you explain that, please? 1415 01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:15,140 Mr. Stampler's state at the time of the offense was such that his body could be 1416 01:42:15,140 --> 01:42:18,340 present at a homicide, and yet his mind would be unable to recall it. 1417 01:42:18,820 --> 01:42:20,020 And how was that possible? 1418 01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:24,200 The neurological mechanism that would make this possible began with the early 1419 01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:25,960 abuse suffered at the hands of his father. 1420 01:42:26,300 --> 01:42:27,300 In defense... 1421 01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:31,720 Aaron's like he splintered and helped him to create two separate 1422 01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:35,980 Your Honor, Mr. Bale. I didn't say it. You have been warned twice now. 1423 01:42:36,660 --> 01:42:38,540 Do you really want to pursue this line of questioning? 1424 01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:41,040 I suggest you think long and hard before answering. 1425 01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:46,740 Your Honor, just one last question. 1426 01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:53,400 All right, Dr. Arrington. 1427 01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:56,800 In your opinion, 1428 01:42:58,210 --> 01:43:03,150 Is Aaron Stampler capable of murder? No, he is not. He is far too traumatized to 1429 01:43:03,150 --> 01:43:04,730 express normal anger and frustration. 1430 01:43:05,110 --> 01:43:09,930 He keeps his emotions repressed, which is why he created Roy, who is capable of 1431 01:43:09,930 --> 01:43:10,489 such a crime. 1432 01:43:10,490 --> 01:43:14,010 Objection, Your Honor. That's enough, Mr. Bale. The jury will disregard this 1433 01:43:14,010 --> 01:43:17,190 witness's last statement, as will the court. Thank you very much. Madam 1434 01:43:17,190 --> 01:43:18,830 Prosecutor, do you wish to cross? 1435 01:43:19,050 --> 01:43:20,050 You bet I do. 1436 01:43:22,570 --> 01:43:27,170 Since you brought it up... Against the instructions of the court. I'm curious 1437 01:43:27,170 --> 01:43:30,770 know, is multiple personality disorder your primary area of expertise? 1438 01:43:31,250 --> 01:43:36,290 It's not my primary field, no. Is forensic psychiatry your primary area of 1439 01:43:36,290 --> 01:43:39,430 expertise? No, I'm a neuropsychologist. I see. 1440 01:43:40,110 --> 01:43:45,830 So you have no forensic experience, and you're more of, oh, let's say, an 1441 01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:46,830 academic. 1442 01:43:47,930 --> 01:43:51,250 Then you will forgive this rather academic question. 1443 01:43:51,830 --> 01:43:53,370 I'm driving in my car. 1444 01:43:54,050 --> 01:43:57,850 Somebody cuts me off. I think to myself, I could just kill that guy, but I 1445 01:43:57,850 --> 01:44:00,070 don't, now do I? I would hope not. That's right. 1446 01:44:00,730 --> 01:44:01,890 Things happen to us. 1447 01:44:02,710 --> 01:44:04,170 People wrong us. 1448 01:44:04,570 --> 01:44:08,630 But we don't all go around inventing psychopaths to do our dirty work for us, 1449 01:44:08,650 --> 01:44:12,210 now do we, Doctor? I'm not suggesting you suffer from multiple personality, 1450 01:44:12,210 --> 01:44:14,890 Venable. I'm saying Mr. Stampler does. Yes, I know, we heard. 1451 01:44:17,410 --> 01:44:21,350 You've also testified that you have met this, um... 1452 01:44:21,710 --> 01:44:24,090 What was his name again? Roy. Roy what? 1453 01:44:25,170 --> 01:44:26,690 He didn't give a last name. 1454 01:44:26,890 --> 01:44:32,430 I see. Did this Roy tell you that he had murdered the Archbishop? Mr. Vail was 1455 01:44:32,430 --> 01:44:35,330 alone with him at the time. I was watching through the window. But soon 1456 01:44:35,330 --> 01:44:39,630 that, I was in the room and saw both Roy and his transformation back to Aaron. 1457 01:44:40,790 --> 01:44:45,750 Did you happen to tape this appearance of Aaron? 1458 01:44:47,790 --> 01:44:49,430 Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 1459 01:44:49,730 --> 01:44:52,810 I just, I cannot get used to this name. Roy. 1460 01:44:53,710 --> 01:44:54,710 Did you? 1461 01:44:56,490 --> 01:44:57,750 No, the tape was off. 1462 01:44:58,730 --> 01:44:59,730 Off? 1463 01:45:01,490 --> 01:45:06,470 So you have no record whatsoever of his appearance? 1464 01:45:06,870 --> 01:45:08,190 No. No. 1465 01:45:10,270 --> 01:45:13,090 Does Aaron Stampler know the difference between right and wrong? 1466 01:45:13,610 --> 01:45:18,450 Yes, he does. If Aaron Stampler... Butchered the Archbishop. Would he know 1467 01:45:18,450 --> 01:45:21,530 Aaron Stampler murdered the Archbishop? 1468 01:45:21,870 --> 01:45:23,770 Would he know that he had broken the law? 1469 01:45:24,050 --> 01:45:25,050 Yes, he would. 1470 01:45:25,070 --> 01:45:27,910 But it wasn't Aaron who killed the Archbishop. Oh, yes, I know, Doctor. 1471 01:45:29,170 --> 01:45:30,170 It was Roy. 1472 01:45:33,950 --> 01:45:34,950 That's all. 1473 01:45:35,550 --> 01:45:37,050 No further questions, Your Honor. 1474 01:45:37,270 --> 01:45:38,490 Witness may step down. 1475 01:45:39,059 --> 01:45:42,860 Ms. Venable, if you would like to reopen the prosecution's case and call the 1476 01:45:42,860 --> 01:45:47,660 state psychiatrist, I would certainly agree to it. No, I don't think that's 1477 01:45:47,660 --> 01:45:50,080 necessary, Your Honor. I think we all get the picture here. 1478 01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:53,840 Mr. Vail, are you ready to proceed? 1479 01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:58,400 Would you like a recess? 1480 01:47:12,270 --> 01:47:15,630 Could you tell us a little about your relationship with Archbishop Freshman? 1481 01:47:16,850 --> 01:47:22,290 Well, he was like a father to me. I loved him very much. Why did you love 1482 01:47:23,830 --> 01:47:24,970 Why? Uh -huh. 1483 01:47:26,590 --> 01:47:30,170 Well, he saved my life. 1484 01:47:30,510 --> 01:47:35,370 I mean, he was the only person to ever treat me like I was worth anything. 1485 01:47:35,730 --> 01:47:37,290 Stop your whining, you little... 1486 01:47:42,460 --> 01:47:45,280 We've all seen that tape that you were in, Aaron. 1487 01:47:46,820 --> 01:47:50,500 How'd that make you feel? Did it change your feelings about Archbishop Rushman? 1488 01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:52,160 No, no. 1489 01:47:53,380 --> 01:47:56,140 He was a wonderful man. 1490 01:47:56,460 --> 01:48:00,420 So you didn't feel anger towards him about being forced to perform in that 1491 01:48:01,100 --> 01:48:04,420 No, he did everything for me. 1492 01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,220 There wasn't nothing else I could do for him, and he needed it. 1493 01:48:08,500 --> 01:48:10,420 There was someone named Roy. 1494 01:48:14,060 --> 01:48:15,060 No, no, I don't. 1495 01:48:15,620 --> 01:48:16,620 You heard Dr. 1496 01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:20,580 Arrington's testimony about what she and I saw there at the jail. 1497 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:23,820 Aaron, it's pretty strange things going on there. Do you remember? 1498 01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:28,180 I heard what she said, but I don't remember any of that. No recollection? 1499 01:48:28,180 --> 01:48:30,180 sir. Did you kill Archbishop Rushman? 1500 01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:34,880 No. No, sir, I did not. 1501 01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:55,220 Mr. Stampler, would you like some water? 1502 01:49:00,440 --> 01:49:02,960 No, no. No, ma 'am. You sure? 1503 01:49:04,580 --> 01:49:06,340 Yes, ma 'am. Yes, ma 'am. 1504 01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:14,640 Mr. 1505 01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:18,460 Stampler, did you believe that the Archbishop wore masks? 1506 01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:23,800 I'm sorry, what did you say? 1507 01:49:24,100 --> 01:49:28,180 Do you think he acted one way in public and another way in private? 1508 01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:31,480 No, no, no, I didn't think that. 1509 01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:34,100 Isn't that why you underlined the Hawthorne passage? 1510 01:49:37,100 --> 01:49:38,100 Mr. Stampler? 1511 01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:44,980 No, I did not underline that book. You didn't underline it? 1512 01:49:45,480 --> 01:49:49,640 No, no, ma 'am. And you didn't carve the numbers referring to that passage into 1513 01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:50,379 his chest? 1514 01:49:50,380 --> 01:49:54,990 No. No, ma 'am, I did not. I told you I... You loved him. 1515 01:49:56,690 --> 01:49:58,150 You loved him like a father. 1516 01:49:59,430 --> 01:50:04,930 Even though he made you and your girlfriend perform demeaning sexual acts 1517 01:50:04,930 --> 01:50:05,930 his own gratification. 1518 01:50:06,750 --> 01:50:08,110 No, you don't understand. 1519 01:50:08,610 --> 01:50:15,010 He... There was no other way for him to cast out his own demons. He needed it. 1520 01:50:15,070 --> 01:50:18,150 He needed to get off, Aaron. That's what he was doing. 1521 01:50:18,650 --> 01:50:20,110 That's what he needed you for. 1522 01:50:20,730 --> 01:50:24,350 To perform like a circus animal. That was your function in his life? 1523 01:50:24,630 --> 01:50:25,568 No, no. 1524 01:50:25,570 --> 01:50:28,910 Oh, Mr. Stampler, I'm going to ask you straight because I am tired. 1525 01:50:29,470 --> 01:50:32,670 And I've had just about all I can take of this sordidness. And I want to go 1526 01:50:32,670 --> 01:50:38,310 home. And I want to wash my hands. And I want to forget all about you and 1527 01:50:38,310 --> 01:50:43,550 Archbishop Rushman. Did the Archbishop force you and your girlfriend and others 1528 01:50:43,550 --> 01:50:47,470 to perform sexual acts while he watched Yes or No? 1529 01:50:49,310 --> 01:50:53,160 No. Yes. Yes, he did. Yes, he forced you. 1530 01:50:53,500 --> 01:50:58,580 He forced you using a threat of expulsion from Savior House and a life 1531 01:50:58,580 --> 01:51:04,240 street with no heat and no water and no food. He put you in front of a camera. 1532 01:51:04,300 --> 01:51:08,560 He made you take off your clothes and you don't think that that's another 1533 01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:13,400 Another face of a man that we all thought we knew? Do you know what I 1534 01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:15,540 if someone did that to me? I would kill him. I wouldn't hesitate. 1535 01:51:15,820 --> 01:51:20,480 No. I would stab him 78 times with a butcher knife. I would chop off his 1536 01:51:20,480 --> 01:51:24,620 fingers. I would flash his throat open. I would carve numbers into his chest. I 1537 01:51:24,620 --> 01:51:27,120 would gouge out his eyes. I swear to God. 1538 01:51:29,260 --> 01:51:30,260 But that's me. 1539 01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:42,760 No further questions, Your Honor. Where the hell do you think you're going? 1540 01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:45,460 Excuse me? Hey! You look at me when I'm talking to you, you bitch! 1541 01:51:45,700 --> 01:51:48,120 Mrs. Stampler! Fuck you, baby! Come in here! Hey! 1542 01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:49,560 Hey! 1543 01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:52,640 Hey! 1544 01:51:53,780 --> 01:51:54,739 Come on! 1545 01:51:54,740 --> 01:51:56,140 Back off! Back off! 1546 01:51:56,380 --> 01:52:00,800 Hey! Come on, asshole! You see if I don't break her on the fucking neck! 1547 01:52:00,900 --> 01:52:03,680 Come here! Fuck you, Marty! I ain't walking out of here just slow! 1548 01:52:03,900 --> 01:52:05,160 Hey! Come on! 1549 01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:07,040 Come on! 1550 01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:11,360 No! No! 1551 01:52:50,440 --> 01:52:52,320 I didn't even think of lighting that cigarette, Ms. Venable. 1552 01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:00,080 How's your neck? 1553 01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:02,900 Hello. I could call a doctor. 1554 01:53:03,940 --> 01:53:09,740 Mr. Shaughnessy just called to inform me there will be no mistrial, as if that 1555 01:53:09,740 --> 01:53:10,740 was his right. 1556 01:53:11,220 --> 01:53:13,220 This scumbag has a boss to call out. 1557 01:53:14,140 --> 01:53:15,140 No. 1558 01:53:15,540 --> 01:53:17,640 What matters to me is what you have to say. 1559 01:53:18,500 --> 01:53:20,380 Obviously, your case has been damaged. 1560 01:53:22,060 --> 01:53:26,180 In fairness to the prosecution, I will declare a mistrial, regardless of what 1561 01:53:26,180 --> 01:53:28,820 Monsieur Shaughnessy and Vail think, if that's what you want. 1562 01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:32,000 Prosecution doesn't want to try this case again, even if it could. 1563 01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:33,620 Which it can't. 1564 01:53:34,480 --> 01:53:39,500 At least not by me. And I think I can guarantee you there's no one in the DA's 1565 01:53:39,500 --> 01:53:43,720 office who will. So, it's up to you. 1566 01:53:44,270 --> 01:53:48,110 I'm going to dismiss the jury in favor of a bench trial and a blind plea of not 1567 01:53:48,110 --> 01:53:49,270 guilty by reason of insanity. 1568 01:53:49,670 --> 01:53:54,550 Yes? Yeah. The defendant will be remanded to Elgin for an evaluation 1569 01:53:54,550 --> 01:53:57,030 30 days. Let them decide the term of his commitment. 1570 01:53:57,670 --> 01:54:00,830 Do either of you have a problem with that? Your Honor, he'll be out in a 1571 01:54:00,970 --> 01:54:02,790 Take it over to the legislature, Ms. Venable. 1572 01:54:07,010 --> 01:54:08,010 I'm going home. 1573 01:54:13,870 --> 01:54:14,829 Your Honor. 1574 01:54:14,830 --> 01:54:17,610 No, Mr. Vail, I am not refunding your contempt fine. 1575 01:54:18,050 --> 01:54:21,650 And the next time you want to get a client off on insanity, you plead that 1576 01:54:22,190 --> 01:54:23,430 Or I'll have you disbarred. 1577 01:54:53,130 --> 01:54:54,130 You okay? 1578 01:54:54,470 --> 01:54:55,690 Am I okay? 1579 01:54:56,190 --> 01:54:57,190 Do I seem okay? 1580 01:54:57,790 --> 01:54:59,650 I get attacked by this sick twist. 1581 01:54:59,870 --> 01:55:03,670 I've lost the case. I'm out of a job. No, Marty, I'm not particularly okay. 1582 01:55:03,750 --> 01:55:04,750 hey, you won. 1583 01:55:05,270 --> 01:55:07,230 Justice was done. Who the hell cares, right? 1584 01:55:09,910 --> 01:55:10,910 Congratulations. 1585 01:55:17,490 --> 01:55:18,490 You knew, didn't you? 1586 01:55:19,730 --> 01:55:22,110 You knew if I went after him, he'd wig out up there. 1587 01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:26,180 Well, I knew he'd come out if he was threatened. 1588 01:55:26,500 --> 01:55:28,060 And who better to do that than me? 1589 01:55:30,020 --> 01:55:31,020 You used me. 1590 01:55:35,700 --> 01:55:36,700 Yeah, I did. 1591 01:55:37,060 --> 01:55:38,060 And that's nice. 1592 01:55:40,420 --> 01:55:43,380 What did I use, by the way, that was so terrible? 1593 01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:45,280 I knew you'd do your job. 1594 01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:47,380 I knew you'd stand up to Shaughnessy. 1595 01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:49,440 I knew you'd try to win the case. 1596 01:55:50,260 --> 01:55:51,260 What's wrong with that? 1597 01:55:51,310 --> 01:55:53,070 I lost my fucking job. 1598 01:55:53,310 --> 01:55:56,370 And that's good. You should have left him years ago. Oh, Christ. Marty, why is 1599 01:55:56,370 --> 01:55:58,690 it you think you always know what's right for me? Because I'm arrogant. 1600 01:56:01,530 --> 01:56:05,550 I'm very... very arrogant. 1601 01:56:13,830 --> 01:56:14,830 No. 1602 01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:22,360 Yeah. 1603 01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:34,360 I'd like a minute alone with him. 1604 01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:36,140 Are you sure? Yeah. 1605 01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:40,880 You 1606 01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:49,520 okay? 1607 01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:55,540 My head hurts. 1608 01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:58,900 You don't remember what just happened? 1609 01:58:06,590 --> 01:58:07,790 Lost time again. 1610 01:58:09,250 --> 01:58:11,530 Well, I got some good news. 1611 01:58:12,810 --> 01:58:14,150 They've agreed to stop the trial. 1612 01:58:14,770 --> 01:58:16,510 They're going to be sending you to a hospital. 1613 01:58:18,050 --> 01:58:19,210 You can get the help you need. 1614 01:58:21,730 --> 01:58:25,970 There's a very good chance that you can get out someday soon. 1615 01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:37,360 I can't believe it. 1616 01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:40,760 I don't know what to say, Mr. Vail. 1617 01:58:41,060 --> 01:58:42,280 It's all right, Arnold. It's okay. 1618 01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:47,240 I knew the minute you came into my cell, I knew everything was going to be okay. 1619 01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:50,660 You saved my life. 1620 01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:04,100 When will I see you again? 1621 01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:06,400 Well, that's up to the courts now. 1622 01:59:08,060 --> 01:59:09,260 I don't want you to worry. 1623 01:59:09,740 --> 01:59:10,900 I'm going to stay on top of this. 1624 01:59:11,460 --> 01:59:12,460 Okay? 1625 01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:19,600 Thank you. 1626 01:59:21,580 --> 01:59:23,860 All right. You can give me a call if you need to, okay? 1627 01:59:24,500 --> 01:59:25,259 I will. 1628 01:59:25,260 --> 01:59:26,260 All right. 1629 01:59:29,020 --> 01:59:30,020 Hey, Mr. Vail? 1630 01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:31,720 Yeah. 1631 01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:33,800 Will you... 1632 01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:36,720 Tell Miss Venable I'm sorry. 1633 01:59:38,620 --> 01:59:41,180 Tell her I hope her neck is okay. 1634 01:59:47,300 --> 01:59:49,040 What did you just say? 1635 02:00:03,890 --> 02:00:04,890 What? 1636 02:00:05,670 --> 02:00:06,990 You told me they'll remember. 1637 02:00:07,570 --> 02:00:08,570 They black out. 1638 02:00:12,330 --> 02:00:14,050 So how do you know about her neck? 1639 02:00:29,990 --> 02:00:32,030 Well, good for you. 1640 02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:36,180 Marty, I was going to let it go. 1641 02:00:37,220 --> 02:00:42,740 You was looking so happy just now, I was thinking, but to tell you the truth, 1642 02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:43,760 I'm glad you figured it. 1643 02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:46,640 Because I have been dying to tell you. 1644 02:00:47,820 --> 02:00:49,980 I just didn't know who you'd want to hear it from, you know? 1645 02:00:50,780 --> 02:00:52,820 Aaron or Roy, Roy or Aaron? 1646 02:00:53,440 --> 02:00:54,920 Well, I'll let you in on a little secret. 1647 02:00:55,360 --> 02:00:58,780 Sort of a client, attorney privilege type of a secret, you know what I mean? 1648 02:01:00,100 --> 02:01:02,020 It don't matter who you hear it from. 1649 02:01:02,710 --> 02:01:03,930 It's the same story. 1650 02:01:08,230 --> 02:01:13,590 I just had to kill Linda, Mr. Vale. 1651 02:01:15,170 --> 02:01:17,390 That cunt just got what she deserved. 1652 02:01:21,150 --> 02:01:27,950 But cutting up that son of a bitch Russian, that was just a 1653 02:01:27,950 --> 02:01:28,950 fucking work of art. 1654 02:01:39,020 --> 02:01:40,320 You are really good. 1655 02:01:41,740 --> 02:01:43,460 Yeah, I did get caught though, didn't I? 1656 02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:52,480 So there never... There never was a Roy. 1657 02:01:54,180 --> 02:01:58,760 Jesus Christ, Marty. If that's what you think, I am disappointed in you. I don't 1658 02:01:58,760 --> 02:01:59,760 mind telling you. 1659 02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:07,120 There never was an Aaron, Counselor. 1660 02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:19,140 Come on, Marty. I thought you had it figured there at the end. The way you 1661 02:02:19,140 --> 02:02:21,460 me on the stand like that, that was fucking brilliant, Marty. 1662 02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:25,700 And that whole thing about act like a man, Jesus, I knew exactly what you 1663 02:02:25,700 --> 02:02:27,280 from me. It was like we were dancing, Marty. 1664 02:02:28,220 --> 02:02:30,500 Guard. Oh, come on. Don't be like that, Marty. 1665 02:02:32,020 --> 02:02:34,220 We did it, man. We fucking did it. 1666 02:02:34,980 --> 02:02:36,640 We're a great team, you and me. 1667 02:02:37,300 --> 02:02:39,240 You think I could have done this without you? 1668 02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:43,080 You're just feeling a little anger here because you started to care about old 1669 02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:44,740 Aaron. I can understand that, but... 1670 02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:48,140 You know love hurts Marty. What can I say?